dekwon

Hi all,
Please help to identify my new bike.
I got it in the village for fro really cheap from an old man.I have some doubts on if it's a Peugeot bike or not.
It uses some more interesting tubes, better or just more modern to my older Peugeot from 70s.
As sticker calls it's a "Columbus Thron".

I researched some old Peugeot catalogs but can't identify model and year. And I haven't seen stickers like these ever. Can it be fake Peugeot?
Although it has CLB brakes and brake levers, Simplex front and rear derailleur and cranks. Also some other parts are marked as "made in France"

But decals are unlike any Peugeot form 70-80-90 I've seen in internet. Also there is a small black letter "C" on right lower corner of bottom tube decal.
Both rims and hubs are mismatched. And a white label saying it should be serviced at Peugeot service center.

It looks strange to me. Maybe it's a bicycle not for market sale. Like test prototype or a training bike for teams.
I'm confused.

Pictures:

Mr. 66

The Columbus decal is not part of that bike. That's a low-mid level Peugeot, Carbolite 105 most likely. Internal lugs

dekwon

Maybe. As I see on dated brakes and frame its a 1988 bike. But all decals are strange. I've searched catalogs in internet from 80-90s and no bikes looking like this with Columbus at all. But this is first issue.
Second is that font on decals is completely different to what it should be. And colours of stripes and form on seat tube is also strange.
Although there is no evidence of respray or any paint job on frame.

Can it be a test bike or a training bike. Like tot of resale or something?

abdon 

Did Peugeot had that sort of top tube cable routing? It could be a paint job and somebody with a Peugeot sticker set they wanted to use.

More importantly, does it has French threads? Not to ID the bike but because those can be annoying in a world of English threads.

juvela

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rear wheel rim appears to be NISI while front wheel rim something else

something one would not expect to see on a cycle from France

perhaps rear wheel is a replacement



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Maxey

Possibly a French or European market only bike? I've seen a few for sale that were brought to U.S. by sellers when they lived overseas.

juvela

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dekwon's ID shows to be a resident of Republika Srpska (Republic of Serbia)


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Maxey

Ah, I had no idea. Might confirm my guess that it is one not sold in the U.S.

3alarmer 

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...I've never seen a Peugeot with internal cable routing before. But they certainly made and sold them in the later years. Also sold some bikes made with Columbus Thron. But I doubt anyone would go to the trouble of trying to fake a Peugeot. And it does have that "Made in France" on the bottom bracket shell

If you do an image search on Google, you might come up with something similar. What's going on with the chainstay bridge, where it's shiny on one end ?

SoCaled 

Here's a Thron Peugeot thread - Bike also has internal cable routing
Peugeot Competition 500 - Project completed (pic heavy)

dekwon

Yes im currently in Serbia. And found this small hobby )))
All marked as "made in France" - brakes, small plastic pieces on bottom bracket. Maillard pedals also "made in France".
Both wheels are mismatched 100%. One is a Nisi with some hub and second is Benotto with Benotto hub.

And I saw internals cable routing from 80s and later models in catalogs.

Mackers

So did they try to spread the rear end to 130mm (or even further?)

Chainstay bridge appears separated on the nds.

oldiron

Not sure of the model but I had an almost identical frame bike years ago with that Columbus decal which was brought here by a neighbor who often traveled back and forth to Italy every year. He brought it back in the fall of 1989, and I sold it to me the following year. Mine had the same Simplex derailleurs, Maillard low flange hubs, BSA threads throughout, a threaded freewheel, same sloped crown fork, CB brakes, Peugoet scripted bars, Stronglight cranks, seat post, and a forged Pivo stem. The rims were alloy 700c, I don't recall the brand. The wheels were its weak point, neither wheel lasted me more than a few months. It was made in France but it was bought new just outside of Turin, Italy in 1989.
The same neighbor would go there every year right after his kids got out of school, and return with a handful of bikes and occasionally a moped or motorcycle they had bought and used that summer there. Before they returned, they would dump them cheap and buy new one's over there. I ended up with several of them, including two scooters and one moped back in the day.
For some reason I seem to recall the model being referred to as a PY10 with a letter after it but that was only something I found out back around the time I sold it, nearly 20 years ago.