Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Are Saddle Rails Worth Anything?

Old 10-20-23, 11:04 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: New England
Posts: 45

Bikes: 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubilee, 1988 Univega Range Rover 18, 1983(?) Novara Randonee

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Are Saddle Rails Worth Anything?

Hello folks,

I have a couple of old leather saddles (Brooks B-72 and Wrights W3N) that are toast. The leather is torn on one and tearing on the other, but the rails and other metallic structure are in great shape. Are these worth anything to anyone? I'm trying to decide if should put them on Craigslist, FB Marketplace, or eBay, or if they should just go in a dumpster. If they are worth something, maybe to someone interested in putting new leather on them, what might I expect to be able to sell these for if I want them gone sooner rather than later?

Thanks for any help


The Brooks comes with all the hardware and has the little \"Brooks" nameplate on the back as well as metal grommets for a saddle bag.

The Wrights may have the nose hardware sitting around somewhere, but I may have also lost it.
Rainbow83 is offline  
Old 10-20-23, 11:20 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,046

Bikes: Cuevas Custom, Cimmaron, 1988 "Pinalized Rockma", 1984 Trek 510, Moulton custom touring, Raleigh Competition GS, Bridgestone Mb-2 & 3, 1980's Peugeot - US, City, & Canyon Express (6)

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 985 Post(s)
Liked 3,303 Times in 1,651 Posts
Send them to @rhm so they can be reborn
SoCaled is offline  
Likes For SoCaled:
Old 10-20-23, 03:48 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 1,834

Bikes: several Eddy Merz (ride like Eddy, braze like Jim!)

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 992 Post(s)
Liked 1,600 Times in 597 Posts
At the co-op, know I donít know if these were a stock thing, but we have some Brookís skins in bags
__________________
"Leave the gun. Take the Colnagos."
Robvolz is offline  
Old 10-21-23, 01:53 AM
  #4  
seŮor miembro
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 8,726

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3825 Post(s)
Liked 6,391 Times in 3,161 Posts
Are saddle rails worth anything?
Yes, I sold a Brooks frame locally for $10. I think he was going to send it to rhm.

​​​​​​
SurferRosa is offline  
Old 10-21-23, 09:01 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
zukahn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,496

Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Liked 1,675 Times in 601 Posts
Yes I have sold a couple here on the forums nice vintage full rails parts saddles like these seem to go for $20-30. There are several members here on the forums that rebuild or make leather saddles and would likely want these.

Last edited by zukahn1; 10-21-23 at 09:06 AM.
zukahn1 is offline  
Old 10-21-23, 09:26 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
CrowSeph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: South Italy
Posts: 998

Bikes: BMC SLR01; Cannondale Trail; Lot's of project and vintage bikes..

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 322 Post(s)
Liked 163 Times in 100 Posts
i would take them to
CrowSeph is offline  
Old 10-23-23, 09:46 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
Cyclespanner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 163

Bikes: Several

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 146 Times in 82 Posts
I have 17 Brooks saddles of the various 'sprung' variety.
Most are new or almost new. These I cherish as a 'collection', to be admired and preserved.
Others don't pretend to be anything but worn examples but are still functional, especially for daily service, even if just for a 'beater' bike.

Even if a cover is cracked and dry, long neglected, as long as the critical areas around rivets are sound, it can be revived and be supple once again. And it will have character all of its own.

The underlying hardware has intrinsic value, even if the cover has expired.
Recently I bought a saddle which came with a butchered tension bolt.
I got a new replacement online at what seemed a reasonable price. Yet the p&p effectively tripled the cost!
Soon after I came across a complete frame on ebay and managed to bag it for the same price the one part I'd just bought!

Then I realised so much of the Brooks hardware is interchangeable between similar models.
So, for instance a B66 can be converted to a B67, or the other way round.

It isn't unknown for a frame rail to fail, or a kantle to fracture.
All the frame parts are available....at a price, at a distance.
Don't hesitate to grab an old seemingly useless saddle at a good price, ie as cheaply as possible.

Many here have several cycles, often fitted with a favoured Brooks.
A 'trashed' saddle or two stashed away could become your own insurance sometime.

One of my big beefs with chromed Brooks fittings is the extremely poor plating.
When you consider these saddles are marketed as premium products, why are such shoddy items included?
Cyclespanner is offline  
Old 11-10-23, 09:12 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 824
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 470 Post(s)
Liked 328 Times in 256 Posts
One of my big beefs with chromed Brooks fittings is the extremely poor plating.
When you consider these saddles are marketed as premium products, why are such shoddy items included?
To increase profits, of course!

Once could buy a stainless steel version for a substantial additional price (though cost stainless steel bars couldn’t be more than few more $).
​​​​​​​
Alan K is offline  
Old 11-10-23, 09:16 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 824
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 470 Post(s)
Liked 328 Times in 256 Posts
I am glad run into this thread. I almost threw away a very old Brooks saddle, its leather is in terrible shape, very dry and cracked but the hardware seems intact. I shall look into getting a new skin for it, assuming it’s affordable (I know, it’s subjective).
Alan K is offline  
Old 11-11-23, 02:05 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
Cyclespanner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 163

Bikes: Several

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 146 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by Alan K
I am glad run into this thread. I almost threw away a very old Brooks saddle, its leather is in terrible shape, very dry and cracked but the hardware seems intact. I shall look into getting a new skin for it, assuming itís affordable (I know, itís subjective).
As far as I can find out, Brooks won't sell a leather cover separately.

I used to know a guy who made stainless fasteners; he told me the raw material was (at the most) 12% extra.
35 years ago I restored a 1956 BSA motorcycle using his products.....all these years later.....no rust.
Cyclespanner is offline  
Old 11-11-23, 07:44 AM
  #11  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,600

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 189 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2861 Post(s)
Liked 2,612 Times in 1,392 Posts
Saddles made to be used, abused and repaired. Too bad they don't make shoes like this anymore
__________________
ďOne morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Likes For Bianchigirll:
Old 11-11-23, 09:30 AM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
Cyclespanner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 163

Bikes: Several

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 146 Times in 82 Posts
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Saddles made to be used, abused and repaired. Too bad they don't make shoes like this anymore
Oh, but they still do make shoes like that, if you can afford them.
They are made to last.
(Get it?)
Cyclespanner is offline  
Likes For Cyclespanner:
Old 11-12-23, 08:53 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 824
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 470 Post(s)
Liked 328 Times in 256 Posts
Originally Posted by Cyclespanner
As far as I can find out, Brooks won't sell a leather cover separately.

I used to know a guy who made stainless fasteners; he told me the raw material was (at the most) 12% extra.
35 years ago I restored a 1956 BSA motorcycle using his products.....all these years later.....no rust.
Stainless steel parts arenít really all that much more to produce or buy in bulk (like screws for bikes) and do seem to last forever.
In all of my bicycles, wherever possible, I have changed all screws, nuts, bolts to stainless steel years ago and happy with the results.

A family friend knows some Amish people who work with leather, making saddles for horses for selling to outsiders. I will check with him to see if they might be interested in undertaking a small project.
Alan K is offline  
Likes For Alan K:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.