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Old 10-31-23, 12:24 PM
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Storage find Schwinn

Found a schwinn in a storage unit. Serial near brake is G156 09. Any Info would be great. Can't post pictures yet. Built like a Stingray but chain guard says Schwinn American. Has a generator light and a Schwinn Speedometer. Thanks
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Without pictures I would say it is not worth much
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Understand. Can't post pictures yet. Just wondering why chain guard says Schwinn American . Not Schwinn Stingray. I can't find any matches online. Can I assume its from 1961 going by the serial number?
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It is an American, not a Stingray. That model ran from 1955 through 1965. Biggest difference came from marketing, it was build completely in the US where on previous bikes they were proud to say parts came from around the world.
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Hey Thanks!
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so, any value?
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The "value" on most of (any of) those old Schwinns really is all over the map. There really isn't any reliable barometer or method or rhyme or reason to any of it.

I had a Schwill lil' chick in pristine condition, all original, waxed, polished, overhauled, etc... in my shop for 2 years. Eventually a customer offered $25 for it and a volunteer agreed.

I've seen pinholed junk on craigslist asking $1000.

I'd consider it a collectible of no monetary value. But cool nonetheless. The real value is in the smiles on the grandchildrens faces as they blissfully use the thing to blaze over what ever hill or dale a 9 year old discovers beyond the cul-de-sac.

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Thanks for the reply. I collect a lot of things. If I start collecting bikes I will be sleeping outside this winter. I will most likely list it for a local sale for a while. If no takers, I'll part it out. That will make shipping a bit easier. Also that would help anyone with a project going. One more question. Do I list it as a Stingray or American? I can't find a Stingray looking bike with an American logo online.
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what is that cable up front for?
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what is that cable up front for?
Cable-drive speedometer; Hunt-Wilde, if I remember correctly. You can just glimpse the speedo next to the handlebar stem, I think.
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Interesting bike, employs 20 x 1 3/4” tires, the Stingray brought the 20 x 2.125” rim and tire, slightly smaller diameter for the rear and wider, the “Slick”, even with Silk in the casings for a time, so drag racer.

for a Schwinn enthusiast, will have the gap filler in a collection appeal.
‘the Cabe is the place to find that person.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Cable-drive speedometer; Hunt-Wilde, if I remember correctly. You can just glimpse the speedo next to the handlebar stem, I think.
ah yes of course. I used to love all that stuff, plus mirrors that always moved when I hit bumps. never had fenders tho! generator powered lights back then, were magical. if I could go back in time & have 1 more ride ...
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The Cabe was mentioned, as should RatRodBikes.com. Lots of muscle bike fans there. Good luck flipping it.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Interesting bike, employs 20 x 1 3/4” tires, the Stingray brought the 20 x 2.125” rim and tire, slightly smaller diameter for the rear and wider, the “Slick”, even with Silk in the casings for a time, so drag racer.

for a Schwinn enthusiast, will have the gap filler in a collection appeal.
‘the Cabe is the place to find that person.
From that angle of the pics, I look at the apparently "short" cranks, and the droopy top tube, as well as a short appearing kickstand. To my eye, this makes the frame the same as what we called a "Junior" frame. A junior frame can only fit 1 3/4, so everything adds up.

I do think the original poster is confused by the banana seat and high bars, but that frame never came with those (or the fenders) . I does seem to have been "converted" by someone who knew what they were doing. All original fasteners were used, which were usually the first thing to go in the garbage.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
From that angle of the pics, I look at the apparently "short" cranks, and the droopy top tube, as well as a short appearing kickstand. To my eye, this makes the frame the same as what we called a "Junior" frame. A junior frame can only fit 1 3/4, so everything adds up.

I do think the original poster is confused by the banana seat and high bars, but that frame never came with those (or the fenders) . I does seem to have been "converted" by someone who knew what they were doing. All original fasteners were used, which were usually the first thing to go in the garbage.
+1 this one does look to be early 60's Junior that has been modified changed with late 60's Schwinn parts. These were Schwinn's basic cheaper cruiser model when new about the least sought after of the 50's or 60's Schwinn's. Being a lesser model and none original modified I would guess only $150 or so on a local sale. The Schwinn's from the 60's that have good collectors value are the deluxe more expensive when new models in very good none restored original condition. Early Stingrays, Jaguars and Panthers are some of the more sought after models. Schwinn probably sold ten basic or cheaper model bikes or more for every 1 nicer deluxe model they sold a lot of smaller dealerships didn't even stock most of the deluxe higher end stuff so you needed to order it.
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Thanks for all the info. Having said it's not all original, is there more value in parting it out? I have the time to mess with it.
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I take it you are into picking up storage units? If that's your main goal then no, dump it on Facebook marketplace. List it for $50 and be happy to take $25. There isn't enough value there to bother parting it out but somebody would be tickled pink to restore it for a grandkid. As you probably know there is a strong correlation between how fast you can get rid of the stuff you find on them units and how much money you can make.

Going forward the most important picture for us to ID and help value bikes is the straight side picture, showing the crank side, on good old daylight. No fancy angles, just a mug shot. Along with that the serial number could help nail the year it was made.
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Yes on the pictures. I need 10 post to be able to do pictures. I think this is 7.
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I don't think this is an actual Stingray. I think it is a 20" Schwinn American, and someone has simply added the handlebars and seat, making it into a Stingray wannabe. One important clues is the standard rear tire, which is a middleweight tire and not the standard Stingray wheel.
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Yes the tires wheels are 20 x 1 3/4 which was the tire size wheels pretty much Schwinn only used on Schwinn junior kids bike variants from the 40's till 65 or so the pre date the Stingray a obvious till that it is a slightly older bike made up to look like early Stingray. As for parting likely not a lot there good chance the seat and bars are not Schwinn and most of the parts a pretty basic likely $150 tops with $200 in work and hassle to market.
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Well I listed on Ebay. It might be something someone can use, I just listed as SCHWINN 1961. Made no reference to Stingray. I was able to post a few pictures. We'll see what happens. After a week I'll add "best offer".Thanks for letting me pick your brains on this.
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Originally Posted by zukahn1
Yes the tires wheels are 20 x 1 3/4 which was the tire size wheels pretty much Schwinn only used on Schwinn junior kids bike variants from the 40's till 65 or so the pre date the Stingray a obvious till that it is a slightly older bike made up to look like early Stingray. As for parting likely not a lot there good chance the seat and bars are not Schwinn and most of the parts a pretty basic likely $150 tops with $200 in work and hassle to market.
I bought a used Slick Chick in 1972 from a Schwinn Store, took it apart immediately and had a mid height top tube welded in… repainted it yellow with a satin black fork, a few other mods and had a proto BMX bike.
sold it at a profit two years later.
fun bike. It used 20 x 1 3/4” tires front and rear. Wheelbase was same as the longer Sting Ray.
used the proceeds to buy a pair of Campagnolo Record pedals and a Phil bottom bracket.
bye bye BMX. Was not even called that at the time.
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Originally Posted by repechage
I bought a used Slick Chick in 1972 from a Schwinn Store, took it apart immediately and had a mid height top tube welded in… repainted it yellow with a satin black fork, a few other mods and had a proto BMX bike.
sold it at a profit two years later.
fun bike. It used 20 x 1 3/4” tires front and rear. Wheelbase was same as the longer Sting Ray.
used the proceeds to buy a pair of Campagnolo Record pedals and a Phil bottom bracket.
bye bye BMX. Was not even called that at the time.
nice
older kids in my neighborhood customized their bikes too. if I remember correctly, one guy had welded on roller skate wheels, to make his own wheelie bar
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