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RIH Supercourse, Sell for parts or Complete?

Old 01-12-24, 06:53 PM
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RIH Supercourse, Sell for parts or Complete?

Hi
I have kindly been advised to post my 1962 RIH Supercourse in this section for appraisal.
Can anyone tell me what itīs worth please?
Itīs in original paint, and Itīs a complete bike (except for the tyres)
And would I be better off selling it for parts in your opinion? (I live in Spain)
It seems such a shame though as itīs a complete bike in good condition for itīs age (apart from the tyres) with a Brookes saddle and Titan handlebars.
Thank you in Advance.
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the Juy gear ensemble, Titan stem/bar set and Brooks are the only components with good collector value

would seem to make much more sense to keep it together as a complete and period machine

frame's lugs and crown appear to be EKLA

member @non-fixie will have much more and better information for you shortly


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The value is in the fact that it is a fairly rare and original bike that hasn't been messed with, and that is what collectors tend to like.

However, as it is not a true racing bike but what was known BITD as a "super sports bike", a GT if you will, its appeal will be limited to those who know and appreciate these. Built by the same man in the same shop with the same tools as the bike for the 1965 World Sprint Champion:



These RIH Supers are the Ferrari 250 GTE's of the cycling world.

Having said all that, I know one or two people here in Holland who like and own bikes like these. If you like I could put a word out, see what happens.
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Originally Posted by juvela
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the Juy gear ensemble, Titan stem/bar set and Brooks are the only components with good collector value

would seem to make much more sense to keep it together as a complete and period machine

frame's lugs and crown appear to be EKLA

member @non-fixie will have much more and better information for you shortly


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Originally Posted by juvela
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the Juy gear ensemble, Titan stem/bar set and Brooks are the only components with good collector value

would seem to make much more sense to keep it together as a complete and period machine

frame's lugs and crown appear to be EKLA

member @non-fixie will have much more and better information for you shortly


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the rims might be pretty uncommon if they are 700c, not 27”.
the bike looks very sound for its age. Correct, not a top tier machine, but not pedestrian.
an audience in Europe will probably be best.
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Originally Posted by repechage
the rims might be pretty uncommon if they are 700c, not 27”.
the bike looks very sound for its age. Correct, not a top tier machine, but not pedestrian.
an audience in Europe will probably be best.
700C / 28" was always the standard in Europe, so no surprise there. It does look very sound (and in very good condition, I might add) for its age. And it is a top tier machine, in the sense that it was built by one of Europe's best frame builders, and was probably the most expensive bike for sale at the time in Holland.

These were the typically the bikes that were bought by people in-the-know, such as former racers and well-to-do citizens who just wanted the very best. The lack of chrome and other bling is a consequence of our Calvinist heritage, I'm afraid.

One of the people who liked these bikes was former track racer Gerard Bosch van Drakestein Esq. To hide his noble upbringing he used the name "Ulysses" when in competition:



He finished his career with a silver medal at the 1928 Olympics at the age of 41:



In the early sixties he wrote for a local cycling magazine about, amongst other things, the "supersport" bikes.

Here he is later in life (on the left), with a few other track stars, such as Piet Moeskops and Arie van Vliet:

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Thank you very much for sharing the information.
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Originally Posted by repechage
the rims might be pretty uncommon if they are 700c, not 27”.
the bike looks very sound for its age. Correct, not a top tier machine, but not pedestrian.
an audience in Europe will probably be best.
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Were it me and if I did not want the bike, I would sell it as a complete bike. Broken up it will not fetch more $$$ in my opinion. The problem is shipping. If you can't sell locally, then you must ship and that is a kettle of fish if you don't know what you are doing.

As for value, I would pay up to $200 US for the bike. If selling, $400 would be acceptable or, perhaps a bit less, just to help the bike find a good home.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Were it me and if I did not want the bike, I would sell it as a complete bike. Broken up it will not fetch more $$$ in my opinion. The problem is shipping. If you can't sell locally, then you must ship and that is a kettle of fish if you don't know what you are doing.

As for value, I would pay up to $200 US for the bike. If selling, $400 would be acceptable or, perhaps a bit less, just to help the bike find a good home.
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