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Old 09-15-05, 07:51 PM
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Schwinn Traveler? $85?

Hey, I want to buy a cheaper used road bike, so a Schwinn Traveler came up in my searching. The price is $85, the condition is supposedly good, but thats no issue since I get to decide myself whether to buy it or not after physically being able to inspect and test out the bike. So if its crap I'll just go home.

Anyway, I did some searching here and found that it should be around 25 years old, and that the Traveler was actually one of the higher end Schwinns out there. Is this true? Really what I want to know is if it's worth $85 or not, and if not, what I should be bargaining for. Also, one more thing, most of the pics I saw here on BF had the Traveler as like a sky blue, but the one in his picture is sort of gray looking. correct? Anomaly? Something to look out for?

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If it is road ready, $85.00 would be worth it in my opinion. If it needs tires, tubes, chain, cables, pads, etc, that can add up fast. If it has a 4130 chromoly frame, it should weigh in at about 26-28 lbs. These bikes were in about the middle of the Schwinn lineup. As far as color goes, I have a black 1986, and a white 1988. These bikes are nothing special but at 85.00 if it's ready to ride and looks good cosmetically, it'd be worth it imo.
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Ah, that is good to hear. I'll probably be picking it up then depending on its in-person condition.

A more general question, is it a "good bike"? You know, just in general, all aspects of its riding, durability, whatever you want to throw in there.
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Find out for certain what year it was made and what type of steel its made out of. Some time in the early 80's (I approx this to around 1983 by what information I've seen) the Traveler frames switched from a Hi-Ten 1020 steel (32lbs for the full bike) to a TrueTemper CoMo steel (26-28 as posted above). I have one of the 1020 steel frame Travelers and while it is heavy, it's still a good bike, but probably not worth $85 unless it has already been cleaned up and tuned up (cables, tired, etc). Another thing to note is the older Travelers also had steel rims which area not only heavy, but also have horrid braking (esp in wet conditions).
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Originally Posted by Mxu
Ah, that is good to hear. I'll probably be picking it up then depending on its in-person condition.

A more general question, is it a "good bike"? You know, just in general, all aspects of its riding, durability, whatever you want to throw in there.
If it's a TrueTemper frame and in clean working order - I'd say it is indeed a 'good bike' I've fallen in love with the feel of a steel frame after riding friends AL frames and my AL mountain bike. If it's a Hi-Ten steel bike and the seller won't come down off of the $85, I'd probably advise you to pass. I picked up my Traveler for $10. I've put a fair bit more in it (more than $75) making it a 'good bike' but since I can't afford a 67 Chevelle to restore, I figured I'd restore an old Schwinn for the time being.
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Originally Posted by Mxu
Ah, that is good to hear. I'll probably be picking it up then depending on its in-person condition.

A more general question, is it a "good bike"? You know, just in general, all aspects of its riding, durability, whatever you want to throw in there.
Good solid bikes. Don't have much snob appeal, but they do the job. As cuda said, look for alloy rims, probably Weinmann. Also Diacompe sidepull brakes.
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So much terminology! Diacompe? Sidepull? Weinmann?

How can I tell if the frame is TruTemper? Also, if it isn't, what should I be asking the price to be?

Thanks for all the help so far! Glad to hear that this one is not a rip (hopefully).
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Originally Posted by Mxu
So much terminology! Diacompe? Sidepull? Weinmann?

How can I tell if the frame is TruTemper? Also, if it isn't, what should I be asking the price to be?

Thanks for all the help so far! Glad to hear that this one is not a rip (hopefully).
The tru temper decal should be on the downtube just below the front derailleur. The downtube is the one the seat go's into. The front derailleur is the shiny thingy that makes the chain move back and forth. (Hopefully it's shiny). If it isn't tru temper, 30-40 if it doesn't need a lot of parts-work
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Sweet. Well I'll call him up tommorow and ask him to look for the sticker. Hopefully it's there, if not then hopefully he'll settle for less.

I really hope this one goes through, I'm all about the retro-cool !

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Update: The bicycle has a made in taiwan sticker, as well as a sticker indicating that it is cromoly, notTruTemper steel I guess? What does this tell us? From what I've been hearing, I think I should be equating "Taiwan" with "Bad". True?
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Originally Posted by Mxu
Update: The bicycle has a made in taiwan sticker, as well as a sticker indicating that it is cromoly, notTruTemper steel I guess? What does this tell us? From what I've been hearing, I think I should be equating "Taiwan" with "Bad". True?
Taiwan built Schwinns are great bicycles. Period. Some other branded Taiwan built bikes may not be up to snuff, but the Schwinns most assuredly are.

The chrome-moly 4130 frames are fine, and the bike should weigh in at about 26 pounds depending on the frame size.

As far as frame nomenclature is concerned, the tube that the seatpost slides into is called the "seat tube", not the down tube. The down tube is the tube connecting the head tube to the bottom bracket. Here's a great illustration from Keith Kingbay's book naming bike and frame components.
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How would something like this
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/98013900.html
(a U08?) compare to the Schwinn Traveler? Good to hear that Taiwan doesnt necessarily mean crap.
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Originally Posted by Mxu
How would something like this
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/98013900.html
(a U08?) compare to the Schwinn Traveler? Good to hear that Taiwan doesnt necessarily mean crap.
It looks nice, but I don't know Peugeots well enough to make a comparison.
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The thing is, I see so many threads here about people getting their 70's Peugeots for close to nothing, like picking them off the streets for free (there was a thread about that) or going to thrift shops and getting them for 5 bucks, I'm quite jealous. Here I am, lucky to find one going for $70. Stupid New York....

Is it worth $70?
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If you are new to older cycles, I would not get the Peugeot. Although they seem to have gained some cachet of late, a Pug as early as the one in the craigslist ad is French threaded and many of the parts are oddball sizings. Stick with the Schwinn; the folks advising you have some knowledge on 'em, though I know little about them. I do, however, know a fair amount about earlier Pugs, since I own and maintain six of them. That particular Peugeot has steel rims, oddly spaced front fork drops, and troublesome simplex derailleurs. They're great frames for city beaters-- good construction and geometry-- but not where I would send a newbie. To much of a project bike.
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Originally Posted by Scooper
As far as frame nomenclature is concerned, the tube that the seatpost slides into is called the "seat tube", not the down tube. The down tube is the tube connecting the head tube to the bottom bracket. Here's a great illustration from Keith Kingbay's book naming bike and frame components.
I stand corrected Scooper. One too many rums last night I guess.
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Originally Posted by Mxu
Update: The bicycle has a made in taiwan sticker, as well as a sticker indicating that it is cromoly, notTruTemper steel I guess? What does this tell us? From what I've been hearing, I think I should be equating "Taiwan" with "Bad". True?
Mxu,
I have a 1980 vintage Taiwan Schwinn World Sport that I bought in a 2nd hand shop for $20 in 1984. both wheels were trashed but I only wanted the frame. I replaced everything but the crank, bottom bracket and headset and turned it into a low-profile commuter. I rode it to work, 7 miles each way, for almost four years. It never let me down. I still use it today... just rebuilt the bottom bracket again last week... when the weather is bad (has fenders) or the hills are too steep for my single speed. The Taiwan/ Schwinns are a bargain that should not be overlooked... if the price is right.

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Thanks for that info! I'll probably be going with this then as my first road bike, thankfully nothing is trashed on this bike. I hope for it to last for a while.
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I'm building up an old Traveler. TruTemper steel Traveler frame. Anyone know of a resource where I can get an idea what componentry was OEM on these?
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There are a few BF members that have owned these mid-80's travelers and would likely be able to tell you what was original. Most info I've found on the Traveler dates from 79 and before. My 80 Traveler came with Shimano 400 rear derailleur, steel wheels, 5speed freewheel, alloy 'SR' stem, center pull brakes, dia-compe levers with the chicken wings on the steel drop bars. All of this is probably of no concequence to you as they likely changed a fair bit in the few years between mine and yours. If I had to take a stab in the dark I'd say they came with single pivot side pull brakes (likely 'schwinn approved' labeled dia-compes), mid-low range Shimano or SunTour parts of the day. Alloy rims and perhaps 6speed freewheel by 83/84. Scooper probably has the catalog and can give the run down on the equipment.
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Funny, just got back from Goodwill, a real nice Schwinn Traveler with rear rack for 14.99 sitting there for the taking.
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Originally Posted by truman
I'm building up an old Traveler. TruTemper steel Traveler frame. Anyone know of a resource where I can get an idea what componentry was OEM on these?
I have two 80's travelers, an 86 and an 88. They both have Shimano light action rear derailleurs, and shimano front derailleurs. They both have Diacompe sidepull brakes,Sakae sx crankset, and Sakae bars and stem. The 86 has weimann rims with Maillard hubs. The 88 has Weinmann rims with Normandy High flange hubs. The 86 has index-friction shimano downtube shifters, The 88 has friction stem shifters. I am 99% sure these bikes are all original. Also a 6 speed Atom 77 compact freewheel
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I have two 80's travelers, an 86 and an 88. They both have Shimano light action rear derailleurs, and shimano front derailleurs. They both have Diacompe sidepull brakes,Sakae sx crankset, and Sakae bars and stem. The 86 has weimann rims with Maillard hubs. The 88 has Weinmann rims with Normandy High flange hubs. The 86 has index-friction shimano downtube shifters, The 88 has friction stem shifters. I am 99% sure these bikes are all original. Also a 6 speed Atom 77 compact freewheel
Interesting that they went back to stem shifters on the 88 after downtubes in 86. *scratches head* Well, this was an age where Schwinn didn't always make great decisions. My Traveler has downtubes now and I am much happier with them over the stem shifters.
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Originally Posted by cuda2k
Interesting that they went back to stem shifters on the 88 after downtubes in 86. *scratches head* Well, this was an age where Schwinn didn't always make great decisions. My Traveler has downtubes now and I am much happier with them over the stem shifters.
My mistake, I had the years crossed on my inventory list. The 86 has the stem shifters and the 88 has the downtubes. Too many bikes I guess.
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Thanks for that info! I'll probably be going with this then as my first road bike, thankfully nothing is trashed on this bike. I hope for it to last for a while.
I've put over 1000 miles on my World Sport this year, in it's first season (with me) and I put very little money into it. untill recently when I replaced the rear Weinman wheel with something cheap but durable.
It's a grerat way to learn about some basic wrench skills. And feel good about your ride, not mystefied about how all the parts work.
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