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SABRE? Any other bikes use the GT "triple triangle"?

Old 11-26-09, 09:14 PM
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SABRE? Any other bikes use the GT "triple triangle"?

Picked up a garage sale bike. Actually just bought it for the alloy weinmann rims and new tires, for a different project. I can't find any info online about the bike. Murray comes up, but the bike has the GT triple triangle.

Would appreciate any feedback, if some has some leads.

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Originally Posted by grasscutter View Post
Picked up a garage sale bike. Actually just bought it for the alloy weinmann rims and new tires, for a different project. I can't find any info online about the bike. Murray comes up, but the bike has the GT triple triangle.

Would appreciate any feedback, if some has some leads.
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Old 11-27-09, 07:33 AM
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Hello grasscutter. Shogun used that design on some frames. look in the C&V threads for instructions on pics. there is a small difference. when you open the manager you need to click attach files and then browse button is blank just a shaded area
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+1 Beat me to it on Shogun. They had a pretty well-equipped bike with the triple tri.
My GT mtb is a triple triangle, and I think it weighs 700 lbs.
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Old 11-27-09, 10:53 PM
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Weinmann 26: rims. No name hubs. Basic shimano SIS shifting. Lower end 3piece BB / Crank. Nothing outstanding, but would like to know what it is.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
+1 Beat me to it on Shogun. They had a pretty well-equipped bike with the triple tri.
My GT mtb is a triple triangle, and I think it weighs 700 lbs.
Hi all, is there any merit to the 'triple triangle' frame design or is it purely cosmetic? I notice it on GT road bikes as well....
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The triple triangle design has been around a few years...Here is a quote from Wikipedia's page on bicycle frames:
Seat stays






The seat stays connect the top of the seat tube (often at or near the same point as the top tube) to the rear dropouts. A style of seat stay that extends forward of the seat tube, below the rear end of the top tube and connects to the top tube in front of the seat tube, creating a small triangle, is called Hellenic after the British frame builder Fred Hellens who introduced them in 1923.



(see; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_frame )


And this from Sheldon's site ( May He Rest in Peace);

Hellenic Stays A frame design in which the seat stays don't go to the seat cluster, but rather cross outside of the seat tube a few inches below the seat cluster, then go on to be attached to the top tube a few inches forward of the seat tube. Hellenic stays were introduced by (and named for) the British frame builder Fred Hellens in 1923, and have been used off-and-on since by frame builders who wish to make their frames visually distinctive. It is of no practical value, and often causes un-necessary complication to brake cable routing, luggage rack attachment and installation of frame pumps. It is also slightly heavier than normal frame construction.
Recent users of this design include GT, Huffy and Nashbar.
(from; http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ha-i.html )
I have a GT Talera and was curious about the design as well....
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Columbia used Hellenic stays from 1962 through the 1970s. Depending on the frame size the third triangle could be very small. Usually it it just about big enough to stick one finger through.

In addition to connecting to the seat and top tube, there was also plate brazed on to the stays that connected to the seat tube as well. This was probably done to add stiffness to the rear triangle, as Columbia used a mono chainstay since 1948.
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I am almost dead certain that this 'Sabre' brand bike is a Murray. For some reason I remember them attempting to produce a higher end line of bikes (yikes!!). The rear dropout design and the frame gave it away to me. There have been other Taiwan and China manufactured frames very similar to the GT triple triangle design.
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Originally Posted by jacksbike View Post
I am almost dead certain that this 'Sabre' brand bike is a Murray. For some reason I remember them attempting to produce a higher end line of bikes (yikes!!). The rear dropout design and the frame gave it away to me. There have been other Taiwan and China manufactured frames very similar to the GT triple triangle design.
I think you might be correct. The only pic I found doing some searches, was a out-of-focus grainy image of a 1992 Sabre, that seemed to match this real well.

It does have some weird things, like a QR front, but bolt on back. Crappy loose ball bearing BB, but yet its a 3-piece. I originally bought it for the weinmanns and new tires, and was going to strip the parts and throw the odds/ends in my parts boxes.

As it turns out, the bike fits one of my friends almost perfectly. Shes just been getting into biking and one day said that she needed a new bike. (Glad she came to that conclusion on her own. Her Huffy was atrocious and no matter the amount of adjusting I did to it, it was a horrible ride, and it needed tires & brakes). This bike will be a great $20 baby step up! Its true, straight, new tires and needs nothing. Who knows, maybe it'll last through the next year!

Anyways, I'm going with the "High-end Murray"! hahaha.
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If I am correct, glad to give you some information to utilize. Just make sure that the bike is all tuned up before your friend rides it. It should definitely be an upgrade over the Huffy. The thing about these mass produced bikes is that even though they weren't great , by any measure, as long as you kept them tuned up they lasted.
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