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Old 03-12-10, 09:20 PM
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Ultra rare Schwinn Sprint and some other goodies

Last summer I started working at bike shops after my severance ran out and i couldn't find another digital video encoding job.

Last summer I worked at a "vintage" bike shop in the east village called "Landmark Vintage Bicycles". We specialized in 60's and 70's Schwinn's. It was probably the best "vintage" bike store in the NYC area.

Now I am the manager of a "bike corner" inside of a larger retail shop on 5th ave next to time square in NYC called Green Planet. I have started flipping old Schwinn's there.

On my last trip to pick up some old bikes i saw this stunning example of a chicago sprint.



I have never seen one before. How much is a bike like that even worth? they only made them for two years.

Some other bikes i actually bought:

A 1966 Racer


A 1968 Collegiate


This is my personal 1969 Raleigh Record, saved from junk day for zero dollars:


Just to tease you I have a pic of my dealers coveted collection of NOS Krates:

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Ultra rare? Unusual, yes. Not ultra-rare. The condition appears to be stellar though; only real thing going for it. Mind you, it's a Schwinn Continental with a curved seat tube, that's all. Your Raleigh Record is more interesting, and - IMHO - a better overall machine.

We have a separate valuation forum for those purposes.

The Apple Krate and Grey Ghost are second-gen reproductions, nothing special. The two Orange Krates are originals.

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Your right I should have said "relativly rare for a 70's schwinn". The record is interesting i can't get an exact year on it because that type of info was suposedly lost in a fire in the factory. I have it super cleaned up and I have fresh white walls on it.
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The fire was in 1948. The records for bikes made before the fire were destroyed, not after.

That is a beautiful Sprint. Look for the serial number at the base of the head tube, and just above the bottom race. It will begin with two letters. The first letter could be "A" through "M" (but no "I"). These are the months (A=January, M=December). The second letter tells the year. K=1974, L=1975, M=1976, etc. Hope this is helpful. Have you seen this link to forum member Bob Hufford's site? Scroll down to see the Sprint.

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I have room for all of them, should you run out of space.
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Ultra Rare Sprint? Schwinn made millions of bikes back then and the lower end models like the Sprint were not rare. Very clean example, so that will help valuation a lot. Otherwise, gas pipe frame, steel rims, heavy one piece crankset, stem shifters, steel bars, turkey levers, claw RD hanger, etc. You just need to find someone who is looking for a super clean version.
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Originally Posted by geoluv View Post
The record is interesting i can't get an exact year on it because that type of info was suposedly lost in a fire in the factory.
That was Schwinn. Raleigh serial numbers will not help you, for Raleigh's SN system was developed by the people who broke the Nazi code in WWII.

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^ yeh the Raleigh numbering system is unavailable. My Raleigh is hanging in our shop window right now but next time i'm at work ill take a pic of the serial so i can contribute to your project.

the way i guessed it was a 69 is by looking at old Raleigh catalogs from those years. I haven't found a 69 catalog but i found 68 and 70 and the other years around it and im pretty sure its a 69 or a 71. Its got sturmey archer rims, will they have the year on them?

my entire summer last year at Landmark i only saw one other record from around the same era. the paint was cleaner but it was blue, not metallic green, and it was an early 70's i think. mine def looks better cause of the white sections on the head tube and seat tube..

I'm pretty sure an old Schwinn is worth more in Manhattan than any other place in America or probably earth. The art deco font and the smoothed head tube weld make them quintessential pieces of Americana. 20 - 30 year old waspy hipsters who have design jobs in Manhattan LOVE Schwinn's. If you are an artsy eco-hipster that isn't TOO serious about riding an old Schwinn is like the ultimate accessory.

My dealer who is nowhere near NYC said the Sprint is worth $400 as it sits in excellent-but-not-mint condition. Its a large i think so that brings the value down a little bit. If i bought it (for $250, haha) and threw some white deep v's on it, a white sugino messenger crank (bmx American-to-Euro adapter FTW), white grip tape and white cables and made it a fixie i bet i could sell it for $700 in the spring if i was still at Landmark.

If you think that's bad that's nothing, there were bike shops in the east village that will buy an obviously stolen cheapo walmart bike from a crackhead for 20 bucks, let a $6 an hour mentally handicapped dude do the tune up (true story), and then try to sell it FOR LITERALLY MORE THAN IT SOLD FOR NEW IN WALMART A YEAR AGO.

I was waiting to post this pic until i put it back together (its a pic from my craigslist ad):



Japanese 1975 traveler. I got it without pedals, handlebars, break cables, levers, and grips.

I put an aluminum bar on it and cheapo rat traps to keep it light. These Japanese Schwinn's sell themselves because they have the retro styling but they are high quality and light. Girls in the city hate heavy bikes 'cause most hipsters in the village and Brooklyn live in walk-ups.

I also have a personal 1959 red mens traveler with the 3 speed. It is not in as nice shape as the 75 but it is all original aside from the chrome fenders. It has interesting font on it, the "Schwinn" on the down tube has red white and blue echelons on both ends of the word and there is a nice graphic on the seat tube with a globe and Arnold Schwinn's name in a ribbon. the logos looks almost "native american-y" which makes sense because at the time cowboys and Indians were all the rage. then in the 60's the space race took off and they tried to make the bikes look more futuristic. That's why Schwinn's look so cool; they are retro but at the time they were styling them to look futuristic.

EDIT: If anyone is looking for a specific rare Schwinn tell me. Ill look for it next time i go shopping. The dude i get them from has 2 garages, a small barn, and an entire basement filled to the brim with Schwinn's, most in awesome shape as you can see. Hes got mint Panthers, mint Stingrays, and mint Speedsters just to name a few. i consider his prices to be extremly reasonable for the north east.

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Those bike are awesome. I would be curious to see what they bring in Manhattan. Around here, about 75 miles west of Manhattan they will not really bring much. For example there is a fully restored, pretty spotless Continental from about 71-72 that has been sitting in a (fairly obscure) second hand bike store at $55 for about a year right now...

That Sprint is stunning and at around 32 pounds is probably the lightest of the bunch, but these guys need some muscles to carry them up the stairs.

If your guy has a 1965 Super Sport in 22" or a 1965 P11, P12 or P13 from 21-22 inches, super please let me know
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^ what second hand store? ahaha. sometimes i visit my family in Hunterdon county NJ ill swing by and snatch that up as long as its a normal size.

Ill ask him next time about your 65's but his selection of road bikes isn't as good as his 3 speeds and cruisers.

hes got big bikes though and they are cheap so ill keep a look out.

In manhattan what you can get for the bikes varies wildly. depends on color, size, sex of the frame, as much as year and brand.

even in antique shops that dont realy sell too many bikes theyll get $300 for an old 60's raleigh cruiser in good condition.
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That Green Planet shop looks terrible. It's a mess. It doesn't even deserve the term "shop", it's more of a junk store. I wouldn't go in there. You should clean it up. I bet that would help business. What are you selling, bikes or luggage or t-shirts or,...???

70% Off, HA!

Buy 5 get 1 free, lololol - ridiculous.
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If you've been to NYC then you'd know many of the lower end shops are tiny hole in the walls and of course they "specialize" in "everything".

I can hear it now:
"Hey, what you want! I get for you! Good price, good price! Best in the city. Hey, like bikes?
I have super rare Schwinn Sprint, never ridden, you like? Only made 5 in world before fire destroy all of Schwinn!
$800 but for you $200 right now because I like you..."
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Originally Posted by Mike Mills View Post
That Green Planet shop looks terrible. It's a mess. It doesn't even deserve the term "shop", it's more of a junk store. I wouldn't go in there. You should clean it up. I bet that would help business. What are you selling, bikes or luggage or t-shirts or,...???

70% Off, HA!

Buy 5 get 1 free, lololol - ridiculous.
This is very typical for a tourist store in NYC. You cannot avoid that. 5th Ave is a mighty high rent area and the OP apparently just has a corner there selling his bikes. At least this store does something that a lot of other similar stores in The City don't do: it rents bikes. And that is a good thing. In most 'tourist destinations' you go, you will find a whole bunch of these stores....
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