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Old 06-18-10, 08:53 AM
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Peugeot Fixed Follow Up

A couple of months ago, I posted this thread about an old (and apparently rare) Peugeot track bike.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=#post10722386

I've now posted the bike on ebay, and someone (who appears to be a Gitane expert) send me this theory on the bike:

"I know this bike, or at least I think I do. It's a Gitane Super Pista track bike painted white with Peugeot PX-10 decals.

About 1975-76 a fellow going to the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque used to ride around town on a bike identical to this.

We sold Gitanes including the 531 Campy equipped Super Pista model. After a quick once over we got him to tell us the real story.

He'd worked at a big Peugeot dealer in Boston or NY and had access to rare Peugeot PX-10 decals. He painted the frame white with white lugs like a team Peugeot would have had. Even the Peugeot dealer down the street was fooled for a while.

Peugeot frames from that era had short point Nervex lugs not Prugnat long point lugs that Gitane used. A Peugeot track bike would most likely have Stronglight 93 cranks and a Stronglight V4 Competition headset rather than Campagnolo components.

He even had the same Phil Wood hubs which were pretty rare back then.

The decals are pre 1969 style."


Basically, I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this. And, if anyone knows of a way to prove (or disprove) the Gitane theory. Thanks!
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Old 06-18-10, 09:22 AM
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I don't think that there is any way to "prove" or "disprove" that theory. Even if the alledged person who did this came forward and confirmed that it happened, it would be hard to make sure that this is the particular bike... and even there it would not be a proof.

Here is a page from the 1968 Gitane Catalog, to chew on (don't you love the word "derailleur" in the French description, which was edited in the English? ) :




Edit: And here is a '73. You can see a bit more detail



I would not say that the theory is outrageous, but there is no way to prove it either way. Regardless, you have a great bike.

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Old 06-18-10, 09:38 AM
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that is quite the story and should easily add $100 to the value of that rare, unique, one of a kind custom Giteot LOL

seriously, if it was true story it is a great one
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Old 06-18-10, 09:45 AM
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Your saddle is Brooks Professional, btw. And IMHO hard to sell this at that price point with zero feedback rating... (not that the bike might not be worth it...)
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Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
Your saddle is Brooks Professional, btw. And IMHO hard to sell this at that price point with zero feedback rating... (not that the bike might not be worth it...)
+1 I would not pay market value to buy from someone with zero feedback. In the land of ebay, the buyer takes almost all of the risk. The main protection as a buyer is to only buy from established sellers. On bicycles, I either limit myself to local pickup only, or to a seller with ample feedback on prior bicycle shipments. Otherwise, I will not take the risk.

Given that it is a very nice bike, and very rare, you might get a few bidders willing to take a chance. Certainly if it was a run of the mill bike, I don't think you would get much bidding.

First mistake in your listing, your main picture is taken from the non-drive side. Second mistake, you are using the crappy ebay pictures. Need to imbed full size pictures in your ad text, by using a hosting site. Third mistake is bike is dirty. I would spend an hour or two cleaning it up, remove the pump clamp, and it will be looking good. Lower the seat. Take pictures at a different time of day to eliminate shadows.

Look at it as a marketing project, where the rewards (money) comes to you based in part on how well the bike is presented.

Good luck!

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nice looking bike but your main pic should be from the drive side http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Peugeot-Tra...item2a07ec5225



the nice thing is your price will ensure a serious interested party gets it rather than a Hipster looking for bike to paint orange pinka dn green to ride around
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Thanks for the tips. I'm clearly a novice E-bay user.
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Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
I don't think that there is any way to "prove" or "disprove" that theory.
Interesting story, at least for entertainment. EjustE's point is valid though. Someone could take any out-of-the-ordinary object and make up a clever story to explain how it got that way! This is not to say that it isn't true, only that it isn't proven one way or the other as it is.

Real or not as far as origin is concerned, it's features, i.e. angles, dropouts, etc., are what they are.

"...a big Peugeot dealer in Boston or NY", huh? Nicely vague! Sure it wasn't Phiily or Baltimore?
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