Michel/Cinelli Frame - What is this?
07-23-10, 06:35 AM
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Michel/Cinelli Frame - What is this?
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Can anybody tell me what this frame is and how old it is?
It says Cinelli on the bottom bracket and Michel on the downtube. Never heard of Michel before. Is it possible that this is a Cinelli bike with special paint?...there is an artists signature just above the bottom bracket. It was eqipped with a Campy C-Record first edition originally, according to the seller.
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Thank you people here, I already received some very valuable tips and info in other issues...
Best,
Clemens
Can anybody tell me what this frame is and how old it is?
It says Cinelli on the bottom bracket and Michel on the downtube. Never heard of Michel before. Is it possible that this is a Cinelli bike with special paint?...there is an artists signature just above the bottom bracket. It was eqipped with a Campy C-Record first edition originally, according to the seller.
Pics attached...
Thank you people here, I already received some very valuable tips and info in other issues...
Best,
Clemens
07-23-10, 08:40 AM
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the seller was not the original owner? that BB shell is a Cinelli (Lazer?) found on lots of bikes. it is possible that the bike was built by Cinelli but I doubt it. I would suspect that if Michel is not the builder it is perhaps the name of a former owner who had it painted.
judging by the pumppeg and the style of the internal cable guides it may be a very nice frame. what are the dropouts?
judging by the pumppeg and the style of the internal cable guides it may be a very nice frame. what are the dropouts?
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07-23-10, 06:12 PM
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I wonder if Cinelli as a company regrets selling cast shells thay they used and also sold as components to others, it does blur the line of who made what.
Anyway, it has Cinelli parts, as a number of frames did, long ago they were identified by shape, later they had Cinelli cast into them. I think they are heavy for what they are, but it is not a big amount of extra weight.
Anyway, it has Cinelli parts, as a number of frames did, long ago they were identified by shape, later they had Cinelli cast into them. I think they are heavy for what they are, but it is not a big amount of extra weight.
07-23-10, 10:07 PM
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the very first Cinelli investment castings had Cinelli on them. I never understood why they did that, maybe to encourage big bike companies to pay for a custom pour.
07-27-10, 02:34 AM
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still waiting for the frame, the picture were taken from the ebay ad...i will get back with more information soon. thank you all for the moment!
07-27-10, 05:52 PM
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Don't confuse sand cast and investment cast, the sand cast stuff did not have a name, the Investment cast BB shells did, and the bridges and crowns were kept for in house use I think, that had the Cinelli trademark. Unfortunate if they sold those too as bits.
07-27-10, 06:32 PM
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Cinelli crowns also had the Cinelli name cast in, but it appeared inside the blade socket so it was only visible before the fork was built.
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Hi there!
Finally I received the frame...no new info apart from what it says on the dropouts: shimano
I guess this will not help a lot with the identification, right?
Thany you in any case!
Clemens
Finally I received the frame...no new info apart from what it says on the dropouts: shimano
I guess this will not help a lot with the identification, right?
Thany you in any case!
Clemens
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