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1974? Raleigh Team Professional

Old 07-23-10, 11:37 PM
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1974? Raleigh Team Professional

I picked up this bike this week and am pretty excited about it.

Original owner, purchased it direct from Raleigh in England (a dutch couple).

It has cinelli bars & stem. Campy drop outs. Super Record Hubs (deep flange). Wolber Super Champion Alpine Rims. Dura Ace (first gen) front derailleur.

According to them it is original paint, but had has some component upgrades over the years; late 80's, shimano 600 calipers & crank; late 90's shimano 105 rear derailleur, shifters & bottom bracket.

I found the '74 catalog and the paint does match and so do the campy hubs. But i'm not sure if it would have some with Dura Ace (it has a dura ace sticker too). Thoughts?

I'm also curious about the Serial number, H2447. I know the Ikeston are have SB Serial numbers & Workshop bikes typically W. But this predates this convention. Any ideas where it was made?

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Old 07-24-10, 12:59 AM
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According to Sheldon Brown it was made in 1973, but the catalog doesn't show a team model that year. Maybe it was sold as a frame set. I think most of the high end frames were made in the Carlton factory in Worksop. The Dura Ace sticker was added, the 1974 catalog shows the team model comes with full Campagnola. Pretty sure Raleigh didn't use Japanese any components until the late 1970's. I'm sure someone with more knowledge then myself will be along. Great bike!


1967 - 1973
Yet another number system was introduced in 1966. This new system applied to the high-end (i.e. Reynolds 531) frames, and involved the placing of a character at the beginning of the serial number. The character began at the start of the alphabet, and indicated year of manufacture. Detail about the numerals that follow the alphabet are sketchy, and are presumably sequential serial numbers of some kind.
1966: A, followed by four numerals
1967: B, followed by four numerals
1968: C, followed by four numerals
1969: D, followed by four numerals
1970: E, followed by four numerals
1971: F, followed by four numerals
1972: G, followed by four numerals
1973: H, followed by four numerals
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That's the real deal - it's a beautiful bike and you should be excited about it. Here's a similar circa '73 Team Pro with similar shot-in stays:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TI_RAL...35695/pic/list

'73 was an odd year for Raleigh. Even the original continental version of the Ti Raleigh team rode French components (I believe in '73), and that was the year of the French-equipped RRA. My guess is that your bike originally had an eclectic component mix, probably French, at least in part, similar to the way the bike in the link is equipped. Not Dura Ace, but the guess that the original bits were French probably explains why they were replaced with better-functioning Japanese parts over the years. The SB and W serial number convention doesn't start until 1974 - the SBDU didn't swing into action until late summer of '74. Your bike was built with the other upper end models at Worksop. Probably Hilary Stone can tell you more if he stumbles across this thread.
Congratulations - that's a beauty!
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Thank guys, I feel lucky as I haven't been able to find many this old on the web.

Any thoughts on what I should do with it? I would love to outfit it to match the 74 with nuovo record, but unfortunately my pockets aren't nearly that deep. I thought it might be nice at least to replace the new 105 stuff with older 600 to match the 600 that is already there. I think I'll also re-tape and run new cables in white to match the original.

As is, what do you figure its worth?

Thanks again..
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Most of the value is in the frame, which looks really clean and probably original. I would guess in the $700 range, give or take?
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If you're going to ride it, don't change a thing. The newer 105 is as good or better then the older 600, doesn't make sense to change it. Campy NR would be really cool, but again the newer Shimano bits are as good or better. If you're going to sell it, piece it out it's worth more that way. You could ship it to me, but it's too small.
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No plans to sell right now... Thanks for the advice.
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Out of curiosity, did you get that off the Bellingham craigslist? I saw a similar bike at the local swap, then on craigslist. It was sweet.
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Nope, was here in Victoria.
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