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Old 07-29-10, 05:44 PM
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How much is this bike worth?

Hi, I'm looking to overhaul my first "vintage" bike, and I have this idea that I want a Celeste-colored Bianchi. I found this one on Craigslist, but the price seems much too high:

https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bik/1817492174.html

Can someone give me an idea of what a reasonable price range is for this bike?
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Old 07-29-10, 05:46 PM
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about half that (if everything works and the bike is clean).

(and this will probably move to the valuation forum)
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Old 07-29-10, 05:55 PM
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(and this will probably move to the valuation forum)
Sorry, I overlooked that forum! Looks like I can't move my own thread.
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about half that (if everything works and the bike is clean).

(and this will probably move to the valuation forum)
Are you seriously saying that a Bianchi with a complete 600 group is worth $250?

The last one I saw w/600 went for about $600+ shipping on eBay. It was a Limited, made in Italy. I'm not sure what (if any) difference there is.
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Old 07-29-10, 08:53 PM
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$300, maybe $350 around here, in spotless, ready to ride condition, depending what frame is made out of.

A Celeste Bianchi with Dura Ace STI went for $308 plus shipping on ebay a week ago (that was a deal). There were several pretty nice Celeste Bianchis in the $300 to $400 range.

A 600 equipped Celeste Bianchi went for $328. Both were poorly marketed, but it was pretty obvious they were decent bikes.

Shows the variance in ebay auctions.

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Old 07-30-10, 01:07 AM
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Spotless ? Hmmm, seeing how road bikes of that quality are easily $ 950+ to replace with today's hardware from Bianchi, immaculate and I wouldn't sell it for what it sold for in 1987. Which is what you're seeing with a $ 500 CL listing. Just from the pics I see, the crank gear wheel looks a bit discolored, but the aluminum brakes, chrome on the head tube, the paint looks fresh too for something that is 23 years old. The cables look brand new too. Even the gumwall brake handle covers look original. Granted it's from those 4 pics provided, but it would be nice to inspect this ride thoroughly, in person and up close, just to see what nostalgic and vintage piece of bicycling history is being made available for purchase.

https://www.bianchiusa.com/bikes/gran-fondo/

I have a 1986 Fuji Allegro that is cleaner than that Bianchi on CL. And this is the closest product that Fuji makes in 2010 @ an MSRP of $ 999. Is the frame even as nicely constructed as mine ?

https://www.fujibikes.com/LifeStyle/C...nnoisseur.aspx

Here's what I consider a ragged out version of my bike in blue (5th pic of the series):

https://velospace.org/node/1576

I will say one thing about the joints where the tubes are connected on a bike of this quality, if it's anything like my 1986 Fuji Allegro, you won't see a single weld spot with the exception of where the rear wheel triangle is connected at the top of the seatpost and even there, it will be a meticulously clean weld that is more like a pad that the tube attaches to the seat tube. That Bianchi and my Fuji are close to a quarter century old. I can honestly say that my Fuji has been stored in an air conditioned controlled environment when it wasn't being ridden. Never "dropped" on the road. Beyond a seat replacement, it's OEM circa 1986 components. The original labels, decals and/or stickers aren't even faded, worn, broken or loose. What is that worth to a buyer ? Obviously, the manufacturer feels in 2010, that should start @ $ 950-999+ depending upon which of these two bikes you're talking about.

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Here's mine pretty much:

https://www.classicfuji.com/Allegro&A..._1986_Page.htm

I remember the first ride to this day. Pretty much rolls the same as it did off the showroom floor too.

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Comparing vintage bikes to brand new STI brifter bikes just doesn't work. Buyers will pay more for comparable brifter bikes, and will pay more for even lower level new brifter bikes. For the price of a brand new SORA equipped bike (entry level), around here, a buyer can find a five or six year old full Ultegra bike. Why anyone would buy a new bike is beyond me.

What a bike is worth to me means nothing about what it is worth in the marketplace. For instance, I would not sell my 1984 Lotus Classique for $500. Would it bring $500 in the market? No freekin way, no where close, maybe half that amount. But in the case of my Lotus, it is worth more to me. So I'll keep it.

How many bikes have you sold in the last year? I can tell you, selling bikes can be sobering, when others do not value/respect bikes that we all think are great. Ultimately, the market determines value.

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I sold an unrestored Limited for $220, the guy was estatic! It was a nice bike.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Comparing vintage bikes to brand new STI brifter bikes just doesn't work. Buyers will pay more for comparable brifter bikes, and will pay more for even lower level new brifter bikes. For the price of a brand new SORA equipped bike (entry level), around here, a buyer can find a five or six year old full Ultegra bike. Why anyone would buy a new bike is beyond me.

What a bike is worth to me means nothing about what it is worth in the marketplace. For instance, I would not sell my 1984 Lotus Classique for $500. Would it bring $500 in the market? No freekin way, no where close, maybe half that amount. But in the case of my Lotus, it is worth more to me. So I'll keep it.

How many bikes have you sold in the last year? I can tell you, selling bikes can be sobering, when others do not value/respect bikes that we all think are great. Ultimately, the market determines value.
So true, but when you find a buyer that just has to have a Bianchi, why price it to move as a department store bike ? At the end of the day, if the buyer is after a bike to do whatever on, then a value bike is what they should get. I'd say the frame of a vintage chromoly bianchi is worth 3+ Ben Franklins in pristine condition, simply because it can be modernized with components to arrive at $ 950+ that Bianchi sells theirs for. There's a good chance too, that with selecting your own components, you could very well wind up with a bike that exceeds what Bianchi prices theirs for after a profit margin ? The vintage frame would be a modernized version so technology of components or mileage/age is taken out of the equation of concern. That's what I perceive as the reason for a new bike, new parts, warranties on everything, just like getting a new car. In my Fuji's case, I wouldn't ever sell it, simply because the $ 999 Fuji to replace it with same transportation makes no sense. But if one were to approach with bike envy, had to have the 86 Allegro, bring your checkbook, because it's not going to be cheap. The price I'd put on it approaches closer to the $ 999 than $ 200-300. Buyer wants to pay that much I'll be more than happy to even steer them towards BD. They might even be happier for it. But if they're after a Fuji Connoisseur in a true real retro bicycle, as the name implies, the 86 Allegro is every mm the bike that $ 999 on is. The only downside I can come up with to a vintage bike is the 27" tire, selection for rubber is limited in comparison, but at the end of the day, 27 x 1/8 is every bit as good as a 700 series wheels to ride on.
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HEY! i just saw this same bike in another posting LOL a bit over priced for that "off the shelf" Limited. I said $250 to 300 but I thought it was in Az with you. boxing and shipping will run you about $80. (and I think that is too far for Al to drive LOL)
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