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Old 08-03-10, 05:01 PM
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Old Cannondale ID?

I'm trying to sell this old Cannondale. Knowing what model it is would help. Any ideas? Full Shimano 600 group, eyelets near dropouts, and on front fork would make it a touring model, just not sure which one/year.


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Go to the vintage Cannondale site. Check your serial number (the site explains it well).


https://www.vintagecannondale.com/
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nice looking train depot head badge and all. looks like an early one mid '80s (?) back when they had a frame and use the components to make road or touring bikes. three sets of bottle bosses too.

I love how the TT blends to the DT for a nice clean headtube joint
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Looks remarkedly like a 1985 ST400.
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Yep, definitely an AA/BB/CC ST frame (that's 83/84/85, before they changed their frame ID system). I would guess that's a 17 inch frame (the touring frames were sized in inches) based on the way the top, down and head tubes come together. Looks to be in nice shape.

In the DC area, as is, that's a $175-200 bike.
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I've done better with those older Cannondales, depending on the condition of the paint (many had crap paint). And the small size will bring a premium. Really depends on condition, top notch shape, it would bring $250.
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Originally Posted by gems View Post
I'm trying to sell this old Cannondale. Knowing what model it is would help. Any ideas? Full Shimano 600 group, eyelets near dropouts, and on front fork would make it a touring model, just not sure which one/year.


I'm digging it. I don't think I've ever seen a 'dale that small before. In fact it's giving me ideas..
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Old 08-04-10, 12:05 AM
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that is a thick ass frame i like it PROPS XD
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Old 08-04-10, 06:41 AM
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Excellent resource which I have seen before but forgot about, thanks.

Unfortunately the SN location/# does not follow any of the conventions listed on that site, weird. It is on the underside of the non-drive-side chain-stay. I've looked at pics of ST400's though and I think you're right.
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Go to the vintage Cannondale site. Check your serial number (the site explains it well).


https://www.vintagecannondale.com/
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Old 08-04-10, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
I've done better with those older Cannondales, depending on the condition of the paint (many had crap paint). And the small size will bring a premium. Really depends on condition, top notch shape, it would bring $250.
Yeah I have it listed for $275 in NYC. The bike market is really strong here.
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Old 08-04-10, 06:49 AM
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A few more pics since some of you are digging it.


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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post

I love how the TT blends to the DT for a nice clean headtube joint
Yeah it's a construction element that I'm not sure would work aesthetically on a lugged bike, but on this bike it looks pretty cool.
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Ooops just realized I didn't post the ad yesterday though I wrote it.. Ever reach the preview page in craigslist, think you're done and forget to click "confirm" at the bottom of the page? Not the 1st time for me.. Anyway, listed it for $250 instead.. Should go pretty quick for that price I think.
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Ooops just realized I didn't post the ad yesterday though I wrote it.. Ever reach the preview page in craigslist, think you're done and forget to click "confirm" at the bottom of the page? Not the 1st time for me.. Anyway, listed it for $250 instead.. Should go pretty quick for that price I think.
Assuming a well written ad, that bike should move really fast. That XS size is a real plus.
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You are correct--just sold.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
I've done better with those older Cannondales, depending on the condition of the paint (many had crap paint). And the small size will bring a premium. Really depends on condition, top notch shape, it would bring $250.
why does a smaller size bring a premium?
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Just for your future reference, the serno on that specific bike is NOT on the chainstay, but on the BB. This one would start with CC as it's an '85.
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Originally Posted by hamanu23 View Post
why does a smaller size bring a premium?
Two reasons:

1. Fewer small bikes were made back then. It was routine for people to be sized on larger bikes. For instance, I now ride a 56cm bike. Back in the 1970s, I was sized for a 61cm bike.

2. There are a lot of women looking for road/racing bikes. Most vintage bikes were made for men. So there just aren't many small sized bikes out there on the used market. While you can buy a brand new womens specific design bike today, that was not the case in the past. OK, there were the niche womens road bikes, like the Terry design. But those are extremely rare.

Anything under a 21 inch frame is relatively rare. Most vintage bikes out there are 21 to 24 inch size. Anything under 19 inches is super rare. I had an 18 inch Trek road bike (almost all Trek models, the smallest size was 19 inches, so an 18 inch Trek vintage bike is really rare), the buyer drove four hours to get it from me.

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I'd like to add to wrk101's list.
There are many youngsters today who want to get into road biking, but don't want to spend the money for a new bike knowing they'll outgrow it. A used bike at less than half the price is perfect.
Only problem is, try to find one.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Two reasons:

1. Fewer small bikes were made back then. It was routine for people to be sized on larger bikes. For instance, I now ride a 56cm bike. Back in the 1970s, I was sized for a 61cm bike.

2. There are a lot of women looking for road/racing bikes. Most vintage bikes were made for men. So there just aren't many small sized bikes out there on the used market. While you can buy a brand new womens specific design bike today, that was not the case in the past. OK, there were the niche womens road bikes, like the Terry design. But those are extremely rare.

Anything under a 21 inch frame is relatively rare. Most vintage bikes out there are 21 to 24 inch size. Anything under 19 inches is super rare. I had an 18 inch Trek road bike (almost all Trek models, the smallest size was 19 inches, so an 18 inch Trek vintage bike is really rare), the buyer drove four hours to get it from me.

Thanks man, the more you know right!!
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