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Early 80's Univegs Super Special - Full Campagnola

Old 08-22-10, 06:56 PM
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Early 80's Univega Super Special - Full Campagnola

Here is what I have. Univega Super Special. Itís an early 80ís (I think 1981 ??) that I bought back in the day. I remember it listed for $1999, and I think it was at or near the top of the line Univega road/race bike at that time.

Frame: Columbia Tubing. I think it is made by Mayetta (not sure about spelling).

Just about everything is Campagnola. Almost all parts are original except Tire & a couple of cables.

Here is what is NOT Campagnola
Handle Bars: Fuir Sir they have a really cool Shield emblem on them
Brakes: Mafac Ė Was told they were an upgrade (I think)
Rim: Mavic

I think everything else on the bike is Campagnola:
Steering column Top & Bottom:
Drop Outs
Front & rear derailleurís:
Cranks & pedals
Hubs
Shifters
Etc:

Is this a rare bike? I have a hard time finding any information on it.
So what do you think it might be worth?
Would be a good idea to clean, detail and\or replace\upgrade parts on it or leave it as is? It currently is rideable, as Iíve been riding it to work, about 8mi each way. I know when Iíve watched the Antique road show that people have lost tons of value by cleaning their old stuff up.
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Old 08-22-10, 10:02 PM
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That is a really nice bike. A lot of bars have fancy crests on them, Nitto and Cinelli are the most recognized but SR and others made some too. I don't know that it is a rare bike but it certainly isn't very common, it looks like it could be their highest end model. Cleaning it up will improve it's value, all of the bearings should be re-greased and adjusted along with other basic maintenance. If you don't have the special tools or know-how then it's fine to sell it as-is.
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Miyata?, nice bike. Not the same but https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/526069-given-free-univega-campy-content-pics.html

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Old 08-23-10, 12:33 PM
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Would anyone know the value my bike?
If I were to sell it, would it increase the value to go complete through the bike?
If I keep riding it, I’m planning on going completely through the bike. But I think that would be a winter project, since I can’t ride in the snow anyway.

I see where just a Univega Super Special frame (looked identical to mine) just sold for $135 over the weekend on ebay, but again that was just for the frame. I really don’t want to sell it, especially if its value is around $100-$200. It has more of a sentimental value then that, or I would not have keep in hanging in my garage all these years. But I’m thinking about getting a new bike to commute back and forth to work and maybe do some longer rides on the weekends. Something with a little more upright positioning and has the newer components where the shifters are integrated into the brakes. So if the bike has a high enough value to help offset the cost of buying a new bike, then I might just consider selling it. But then again, it does bring back some old memories. Kind of like that first car, but this takes up a lot less space in the garage.
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Old 08-23-10, 01:40 PM
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I'm not an expert Mike ...... but from where I sit Univega's are not highly sought after. It doesn't matter if it has Campy parts on it ..... it's a Univega .... and Univega always reminds people of cheap bikes. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this model at all, but when it comes to valuable vintage bikes .... perception is everything. I've got a similarly equipped KHS bike from the 80's ... a nice Coumbus SL frame, full Campy Super Record ...... but no one wants to pay much for a KHS frame. The parts though , people want Campy parts if in good condition with low miles. Some look for steals on a complete Campy equipped bikes like yours with, then sell the parts separately.

The hardest part of letting go of our vintage stuff is the memories..... but what purpose do these memories really serve? I'm finding it's more of a boat anchor than anything. Drag it here .... drag it there..... but I don't use it. I always tell people "use it or lose it" .... but I don't always follow my own advice.
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A couple of issues preventing obtaining full market value.

1. Full market value requires the bike be spotlessly clean, and ready to ride.

2. Marketing also needs to be top notch.

I would study some of the best ads out there, both for pictures and text.

I really doubt it retailed for $2000 back then. Unless you have a copy of the original receipt, I would not make that claim. It will turn off the more knowledgeable buyers out there.

Bike may be "rideable" but is not in pristine, ready to ride condition IMHO (it is not too far off). Its all about the small details: no bar tape, surface rust on fasteners, missing dust covers on crank, odd saddle, etc. Such minor details keep the bike from bringing top dollar. Nice bike regardless.

If I use the text above as a judge on marketing, I would put it at $200. Someone more savvy on marketing a bike could make more. I would spend some time working on that end and clean the bike thoroughly.

I would NOT replace ANY components. That will just reduce the value of the bike, and cost you money to do it besides. I would change that saddle if I had something handy.

Modern bikes with integrated brake lever/shifters will have very similar riding position and ergonomics, if not pretty much identical.

If you want a significantly different riding position, you need to consider either a hybrid or MTB. Neither of them would be as enjoyable to ride as the Univega.

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Old 08-23-10, 02:45 PM
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great looking bike. can you post a pic of the sticker just above the pump?

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Blanchigirll, I get the picture as soon as I can.

Thanks for the info guys. I really don’t know what makes some of the older bikes worth more then others. I do believe this was a high-end frame made by Miyata, with a Campy setup. The bike is in “rideable” condition but definitely not pristine. But I’m sure it could be restored close to it, depending on how hard I want to work at it. “Might just make it a winter project” Currently it has no bar tape because back in the 80’s I removed it to put on some really cool looking yellow foam padding on the bars. I do have the original saddle, but I currently just have a soft-cushy seat on it that I took of off my comfort bike.

As far as the retail value back then, it was listed for $1999. At least it was at the bike store in Newport Beach, California. But I was young and didn’t know to shop around and didn’t think twice about keeping the receipt, especially for 30 years. Heck I might have been able to find it for $999 or less at another bike shop. I do know they had two different setups & prices for the bike. The other was for $1699 (I think), but it was not a campy setup.

If the bike is worth about $200, I figure my memories are worth more then what I could sell it for. But then again I can always sell the bike and keep the memories. But the older I get the harder it is to keep my memories.
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Yep .... when we were young and care free ..... we didn't need no stinkin' receipt

Even today though .... as a "responsible person" ...... I lose or misplace or misfile receipts all the time. I miss the care free sometimes . .. . well . . . often !
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Blanchigirll, this is the best picture I have right now. I can get a better one later if that helps. Thanks
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Well, the frame is not Columbus tubing, as that is a Tange Champion decal. It should also have a number on it, from 1 to 5. A higher end Tange Champion frame from that era would be about a $400 bike. The Campy bits would push the price higher from there.
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Thanks wrk101: If there is a number on the Tange Champion decal, do they mean anything?
It's sounding more and more like a nice little winter project to detail it out while watching football. Is there anything I should be careful of if I do?

Here is what I'm thinking.
Disassemble the bike down to the frame. Clean the frame, but don't repaint it since it still has the original paint and all the stickers and marking.
Clean all the parts. Any suggestions on the best way to do that?
Pack & Grease all the bearings.
Re-tape the handle bars. I’m thinking yellow.
Replace cables. Again yellow housing.
Put origional seat back on. It's a little weathered, any suggestions?
Clean the rims and spokes. Again, any suggestions on the best way to do that?
I'm thinking I can do most of this fairly cheep, just a little of my time.
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Thanks wrk101: If there is a number on the Tange Champion decal, do they mean anything?
Yes, I think "1" is the highest end and "5" is the lowest end basic cro-molly. There is also "2"... not sure if 3 and 4 exist. I think your plans to clean it up sound about right.
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Well, the frame is not Columbus tubing, as that is a Tange Champion decal. It should also have a number on it, from 1 to 5. A higher end Tange Champion frame from that era would be about a $400 bike. The Campy bits would push the price higher from there.

I didn't think that was a Columbus decal. still looks to be a nice frame. but I too wonder about the original price. an '82 Super Leggera with full Super Record and SL frame was 1550, and the Super Corse with SR Ti was 2K. was a Univega with NR/Mafac really priced against the Super Corse?

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I hear what you’re saying about the price. I just know I was looking to upgrade from my peugeot, and that’s the price the bike shop had it listed as. It probable was not worth that much, but again I was young and did not know better and believed what ever the bike dealer told me. It's definitely a lot easer now a-day to research. Back then resources were limited and we didn't have the power of the internet.

I just know I really liked the bike and it served me will through my 20’s, and it just sat in my garage for the past 20 years until I decided to take it down and start riding it again this summer. Now I’ve got the bug to ride even more, and heck I’ve lost 40lb. If I can lose another 40lb I just might get back to my old riding weight.

I guess it really doesn’t matter now what I paid for it back then. Just because it was expensive then does not mean it’s worth a lot now. I’m just trying to figure out what it might be worth now. And if I should just leave it stock and give it a nice detailed cleaning over the winter. If I keep riding it, I will probable upgrade it a little and move the shifters to the end of the handle bars. The LBS told me I could stretch the frame and upgrade the derailleurs, but I don’t want to ruin it.

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Yes, I think "1" is the highest end and "5" is the lowest end basic cro-molly. There is also "2"... not sure if 3 and 4 exist. I think your plans to clean it up sound about right.
All Tange "Champion" tubes are 4130 Chrome-Moly. The lower the number, the thinner (and lighter) the tube. High-end road frames would often use Champion #1; frames expecting more rugged use or longevity would use the thicker gauges. The quality was the same regardless.

Tange "Prestige" tubing was heat-treated Champion #1 tubing.
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So in today market of these old bikes, does the numbering make a difference in their value?
Now I will have to check it when I get home.
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I used to have a Super Special. Mine may have been a year or more newer than yours. It had 6 speed 105. Bought used in 1990 at a LBS for $400.

REALLY nice bike. Nearly infinitesimally less perky than my Pinarello.

They are somewhat rare from what I've seen, but rare doesn't always mean goldmine.

Road bike prices vary greatly from town to town, so I can only say that you could get $500 without much wait in the Portland area, AFTER wash, wax, repacking bearings and rust removal program. Man those Mavics look haggard with the rusty eyelets. With patience, maybe $800.

Numbering usually makes no difference unless in the case of the first few of some iconic framebuilders' frames.

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All Tange "Champion" tubes are 4130 Chrome-Moly. The lower the number, the thinner (and lighter) the tube. High-end road frames would often use Champion #1; frames expecting more rugged use or longevity would use the thicker gauges. The quality was the same regardless.

Tange "Prestige" tubing was heat-treated Champion #1 tubing.
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