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Shogun 1000 Frame/Shimano 600 Components

Old 09-23-10, 04:03 AM
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Shogun 1000 Frame/Shimano 600 Components

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I have a Shogun 1000 bicycle with all Shimano 600 components. I received this bike used in the mid 90's - but I think it was already about 10 years old at that point. I am wondering how I might find the originial value of this bike and the current worth. I am considering selling but can't seem to find solid information online anywhere. Any information you can provide would be very helpful.
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Old 09-23-10, 05:21 AM
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Original MSRP is just about meaningless. Post pictures as to values.

As far as searching on the web, stop looking for your particular model, and instead, just look at similar bikes made in Japan with 600 components. The Shogun name is not going to attract a collector. Bike will sell as a good, reliable, vintage ride. There are Japanese bikes with Shimano 600 components sold every day on ebay and other sources. Also, lots of eras of Shimano 600 stuff. Some is pretty desirable, other eras are decent, but not that desirable.

I would start by perusing completed auctions on ebay, then check out your local Craigs List and see what others are asking for similar bikes.
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Old 09-29-10, 05:28 PM
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I was just curious to know the original price, was hoping someone would know. I appreciate your reply. I previously did the search on the 600 components when I had little luck with finding Shogun information. I'll keep poking around to see what I can find based on your recommendations. Thanks for the help!
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Shogun is not a well known marquee, so price lists may be out of the question.

Be aware that a brand like Shogun, because it is not well known, does not get the price hike some models do (a like Fuji will sell for more than a Shogun, for instance, not because of inherently better quality, but name recognition).

Pics of the ride help greatly in any appraisal.
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Shogun IS a well-known name-here in the northeastern US there are plenty floating around, and they trade regularly on ebay and generally fetch from $100 to $300 (plus shipping) depending on the model and spec. The 1000 model was the top model and was likely built with higher-end Tange tubing. If the bike is in good condition, and not outrageously large or small, and with mostly original components, I'd say anywhere from $200 on up.
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Old 10-11-10, 11:11 AM
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Thank you. That definitely gives me a good base to work with.
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Here is my Shogun 700 with a Shimano 600 Arabesque group and I would not take $200.00 for it......





Do your components look like these ...... if so the bike is worth more than $200.00
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Originally Posted by GMEN View Post
Thank you. That definitely gives me a good base to work with.
Some pictures would give us a good base to comment on too...
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https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Shogun-1...item43a1eb4c53

this one was for sale last month...$175/no bids..........
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I agree with the other requests for pictures. They will allow us to do some rudimentary assessment on the cosmetic and mechnical condition, which greatly affects the value. Also, given the 'about 10 years old when I got it in the mid 1990s' statement, it could be either 600EX or New 600EX, which will affect the value. If you post the serial number along with the pics, I may be able idientify the year and provide you with the original MSLP.

BTW, the Shogun 1000 was not the top model as suggested by shogun700. There was a Dura-Ace equipped Shogun 3000.
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Originally Posted by Thumpic View Post
https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Shogun-1...item43a1eb4c53

this one was for sale last month...$175/no bids..........
One picture from 10 feet away, local pickup only... I'm not surprised there were no bids. Come on! Searching for "shogun" in 'Sporting goods, cycling' give me these-

Here's one that went for $510 +ship, 27 bids, 8 different bidders: https://cgi.ebay.com/Shogun-600-Vinta...item41533982e8
Another-and this one's a 1000 model, $225 +ship: https://cgi.ebay.com/Shogun-1000-Road...item5d2b77c5e0

There are 3 others, all sold for around $200 PLUS shipping, and this isn't exactly the hottest time of the year to be selling bikes on ebay-the prices jump starting in May/June it seems. Have I proven my point yet?

Cool info about the 3000 model, I'd not heard of that one. We also had a Shogun 1500 pop up on local CL not too long ago, but I think that was a mid-level 'touring' model with triple chainrings and 600 parts.

I have a 'Samurai' model, no idea where it fell in the lineup, but I loved the triple triangle, and the fit is perfect.

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Old 10-12-10, 04:16 PM
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I only found one because I was finding the info on the bike the OP was asking for.....
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https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Shogun-1...item43a1eb4c53

The link posted by Thumpic is my ebay listing. It is the bike that I originally started this thread to research. I put local pick up only because the bike has been laying around and I wasn't interested in putting too much effort into getting rid of it, but without being sure of its actual value I also didn't want to let it go too cheap - which is why I chose the ebay route.

Everyone has provided some really good info. It looks like I should get some better pics and post it on ebay w/ the option to have it shipped....
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Local pickup only = no sale on ebay, or a super cheap sale. I have picked up some really nice bikes off ebay that way, got a Univega for $20, a nice Centurion for $50. Another lister got a Raleigh for less than $5 that way as I recall. ebay is not the place to sell something, unless you are willing and able to ship. No ship = sell on Craigs List. Many of us tend to sell bikes on C/L for this reason, although some bikes would get more on ebay.

Local pickup auctions only are great as a buyer, but are terrible for the seller.

You would get more for it selling it local on Craigs List than on a local pickup only ebay auction.
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It's a tough call without pictures. As Shogun 700 mentions they are plentiful on CL in New England though so there is an active market here. An all original 1000 in fine condition would probably sell at best in the 200 - 250 range on Boston CL, closer to $200 if you wanted a quick and trouble free sale.
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Local pickup only = no sale on ebay, or a super cheap sale....You would get more for it selling it local on Craigs List than on a local pickup only ebay auction.
+1. Also, the OP's picture is taken from the non-drive side, so you can't identify the major components or their condition. Always take an overall pic from the drive side and include closeups of the major components (i.e crankset/front derailleur, rear derailleur, brake calipers) and tubing label. This will give (knowledgeable) potential buyers sufficent data as to the age and level of the bicycle and allow them a good appreciation of the cosmetic and mechanical condition.
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A custom Shogun ( they used to do that) cost me almost $500 in 1978.In those days,they would build whatever you wanted with what was available at the time.So you can find Shoguns with all kinds of combinations on them.

Mine had an SR triple crank,stem,seat post and pedals.600 derailers and shifters and hubs.Araya box rims.Avocet leather saddle.The frame is made from 531 triple tubing for the triangle and DB tubing on the rest.It also has a 7/8 stem diameter stem because the steer tube is extra thick for a touring bike.Tange forged dropouts.

A nice bike for the money,it's 32 years old and going strong.I wouldn't trade it for anything,I don't care how much it cost.

I've been a Shogun fan for a long time,I've never seen a 3000.They did make a 1000,1500 and 2000.The 2000 is the nicest Shogun I have ever seen myself.The production 2000 is easy to tell apart from the rest,the seat tube up at the cluster will have a big S at the end of the tube.

This is a 2000,and a nice one at that:

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Booger, thanks for the photo, that bike is magnificent. Do I see a Shimano pre-XT 'Deerhead' derailleur on that? Very cool, and thanks for the info regarding custom builds. The early to mid 1980s was a great time to pick up very nice Japanese bikes for relatively little money-Fuji, Shogun, Miyata, Univega, Panasonic, I'm sure there are others. Without these brands, what would all the hipsters be using for fixies and SS builds?

Thumpic, sorry if my post was sharp, I'd had a long day, and didn't mean to seem like a prick in my response.
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no prob...........seems like long days are all we get sometimes..............


btw....there is a Shogun Samurai on ebay right now.......I saved a search after I saw yours.....stunning bike.........the triangle is the bomb (on GT's too)...
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Newbie here coming in on the Shogun conversation late

I just saw a Shogun 1000 on CL tonight. The Shimano 600 components caught my eye. Looks like a decent ride. Check out my pics!
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