Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
Reload this Page >

My Benotto - Help Identify and Appraise

Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

My Benotto - Help Identify and Appraise

Old 09-28-10, 06:11 PM
  #1  
dvend
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My Benotto - Help Identify and Appraise

Hi everyone.
I need help with the proper identification of my Benotto bike. I bought this from a coworker friend back in about 1987. He used to do some racing himself and sold me this bike. At the time I didn't know much about bikes. He told me it was a Benotto 3000 and specially pointed out the diamond shaped chain stays. I loved the bike. It's light and responsive.

But I've never properly had it identified and appraised. Attached are a boat load of pics. Can someone help me shed some light on it's quality and worth.

Also I'm wondering how it compares to today's technology and if it's worth upgrading.

https://img828.imageshack.us/g/1000139v.jpg/
https://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5386/1000139v.jpg
https://img339.imageshack.us/img339/589/1000140l.jpg
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7039/1000143v.jpg
https://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3995/1000146tv.jpg
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2078/1000152bm.jpg
https://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9155/1000154a.jpg
https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2093/1000156z.jpg
https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5007/1000161c.jpg
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5364/1000162i.jpg
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4596/1000163n.jpg
https://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8223/1000165u.jpg
https://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1979/1000166z.jpg
https://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6372/1000167.jpg
https://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5311/1000171q.jpg
https://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6228/1000172.jpg

Thanks a bunch.
Dave
dvend is offline  
Old 09-28-10, 11:54 PM
  #2  
frpax
Steel is real, baby!
 
frpax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,530

Bikes: 1984 Pinarello, 1988 Bianchi Trofeo, 1989 Specialized Allez, 1989 Specialized Hard Rock

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Holy crap, those are some deep drops!
frpax is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 06:17 AM
  #3  
cb400bill
King Speed Wind
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 19,360

Bikes: Fuji SL 2.1 Carbon Cannondale Synapse Alloy Trek Checkpoint ALR gravel Trek 710 Vintage 531 Steel

Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2396 Post(s)
Liked 2,872 Times in 1,744 Posts
Originally Posted by frpax View Post
Holy crap, those are some deep drops!
__________________
Be Nice
Don't Give Up






cb400bill is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 07:21 AM
  #4  
dvend
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry guys but I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Fill me in.
thx
dvend is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 08:21 AM
  #5  
shrinkboy
Senior Member
 
shrinkboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 629
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
means there is a great deal of space btw the tops of the handlebars and the bottom, the drops, where you place your hands when in a full tuck and going fast. the bike is combo of Campy Victory, OMAS hubs, and some other good stuff, and the frame is a good quality Italian steel frame. pretty much your bread and butter race bike of the era. i would not attempt to upgrade it all, but rather clean, polish, repack hubs, new cables/housing, tires, etc and ride and enjoy it.
shrinkboy is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 08:25 AM
  #6  
dvend
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by shrinkboy View Post
means there is a great deal of space btw the tops of the handlebars and the bottom, the drops, where you place your hands when in a full tuck and going fast. the bike is combo of Campy Victory, OMAS hubs, and some other good stuff, and the frame is a good quality Italian steel frame. pretty much your bread and butter race bike of the era. i would not attempt to upgrade it all, but rather clean, polish, repack hubs, new cables/housing, tires, etc and ride and enjoy it.
Thanks Shrink,
I always suspected it was a pretty decent ride. If you had to put a guess on value??
And for the sake of argument, would upgrading cost the value of this bike plus $300, $500, $1000? I realize the sky's the limit, but what would be the next step?
Thanks,
Dave
dvend is offline  
Old 09-30-10, 06:57 AM
  #7  
Tusco
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Edinburgh UK
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I am a newbie like you, so I might be wrong, but I think that for fairly rare old bikes there's un uncertain market. If you want to sell it aim high and then drop slowly the price if nobody comes forward. I have seen old Italian bikes been valued too differently by different people well beyond their specs, (e.g. same frame material and brand).
Tusco is offline  
Old 09-30-10, 08:25 AM
  #8  
jettore
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 345

Bikes: 85 Peugeot Canyon Express, 73? Torpado, 85 Trek 400

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'm a newbie here also, but from all of my reading it seems that upgrading to more modern components will actually decrease the value. Most C/V buyers seem to want an original bike with original components still installed.
jettore is offline  
Old 09-30-10, 02:04 PM
  #9  
dvend
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Let me clarify. At this point I'm looking for some details on the quality of my bike. Is it a average, good, great piece of machinery? How much might it be worth. If I were to upgrade I would NOT put new parts on this bike. I would sell this bike and use the money to put towards a new bike. My other questions revolve around how much more to I need to add to make an upgrade worth while. I admit it, I'm a guy, I like things shiny and new. The new bikes look awful attractive. But are they better? Is the bike I've had since the late 80's the same as a $500, $1000, $2000 bike today? I have no idea.
That is where I'm looking for help with. The relative value of my bike as well as it's comparison to today's bikes.

Hope that helps, and thanks again for the input guys.
Dave
dvend is offline  
Old 09-30-10, 08:45 PM
  #10  
Boyd Reynolds
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago 'burbs
Posts: 216
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A new bike that fits in the same place on the scale (near the top) as your bike will cost $3500 or more. However, bike tech has continued to hum along, and I'd guess that you could get a bike that performs as well as yours for more like $1500. I'm no vintage bike expert, but I'd guess that if you cleaned your bike up, had it tuned at a shop, took good pics and were willing to wait for the right buyer you might get $800 for yours at the top end, and $400-$500 if you needed to sell it right away. It might well be worth more if you broke it up and sold the parts, but it would be a terrible shame to do that to a bike like that.

Will the actual experts around here please speak up?
Boyd Reynolds is offline  
Old 10-01-10, 07:22 AM
  #11  
dvend
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Boyd Reynolds View Post
A new bike that fits in the same place on the scale (near the top) as your bike will cost $3500 or more. However, bike tech has continued to hum along, and I'd guess that you could get a bike that performs as well as yours for more like $1500. I'm no vintage bike expert, but I'd guess that if you cleaned your bike up, had it tuned at a shop, took good pics and were willing to wait for the right buyer you might get $800 for yours at the top end, and $400-$500 if you needed to sell it right away. It might well be worth more if you broke it up and sold the parts, but it would be a terrible shame to do that to a bike like that.

Will the actual experts around here please speak up?
Thanks Boyd,
That's some pretty valuable information.
I had no idea that my bike was that high up on the scale (for it's time).

If others have something to add that would be great.
Cheers,
Dave
dvend is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
itsmotionx
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
8
10-28-15 12:35 PM
carlosmqa
Classic & Vintage
13
02-12-14 08:46 AM
preston11
Mountain Biking
4
08-21-12 11:33 AM
pgoat
Advocacy & Safety
1
02-01-11 08:19 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.