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Old 02-19-11, 06:57 AM
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Any Idea??

This bike was in a storage unit I bought, I tried the google thing and can not find it anywhere
Does anyone know what it is and if it is worth anything whole or would I be better to part it out?
It say Ganna on the sides and the front badge says Velocipedi on two sides and Ganna in the middle, it has Miche wheels and I think the components say campagnolo xenon, I can check that





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I found it on google.
https://hilarystone.com/bike.html

https://myoldbicycle.com/en/bikes/18
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Thank you for the info, I am trying to find something on this exact bike if you come across anything else please let me know

Thanks again
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where do you live and is there any stickers on the bike saying where it was made?

it looks to me like much newer bike than what you might find on Hilary stone of myold bicycle. do the derailleurs, brakes, and brake/shift levers all say Xenon? anything on frame material?

this looks like a someone bought the name is buying tiawanes built bikes sort of like Bikes Direct does with Dawes and Motobecane

Xennon was not the best stuff , if it is rideable it might sell for $200-250, parting it out may be a pain in the bum. the shifters will go fast but the derailleurs and the brakes may take a long time to sell
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Here is the current Website for Ganna:

Your bike looks like THIS ONE


I would think your bike is as good as any of the best bikes available today.
I would keep it whole and not part it out.


PS-

Here is a little Ganna history, from their now defunct "Inglish" website:

Ganna: Since 1912, the succes of product and a Trade Name

Once upon a time there was a man called Luigi Ganna, a famous cyclist of the early 1900's who, for a whole decade, in the saddle of the heaviest equipment which at the time was optimistically called the bicycle, collected the incredible sum of thirdy victories. Ganna was one of the most authentic dominators of the road of his time, together with names like Galetti, Gerbi and Cuniolo. In 1909, the year in which his career reached a climax, he was the first Italian to win the Milan-Sanremo race, the most prestigious national race of the time, covering the 290 kilometres of the route in 9 hours, 32 minutes. The same year he was the first Italian to win the "Giro d'Italia" on roads which in a terrible condition. In 1912, after giving up racing, he began to produce bicycles in Varese, his home town, adopting as Trade Name his own famous name and reaching immediate and enormously flattering success: it is not to be forgotten, in fact, that Luigo Ganna, before coming a producer was a faithful fried of the bicycle, to which he owed his reputation. Once again in 1912, the Tour of Lombardy or "Giro Di Lobardia" was won by Carlo Oriani riding a Ganna bicycle, the first victory of a winning make, then as it is today.

In 1985 Giubilato Cicli s.r.l. took over this historic company name, but remained faithful to teh traditions of quality and reliability for whic it was kell know fron its earliest days in 1912. Giubilato Cicli, which started operating in this sector in 1972, is now confirmed as a leasing company in the production of bicycles, opening its frontiers, it has begun to export all over Europe, the United States and Canada. Our company has been taking up
teh challenge and doubling its skates in a continuous evolution for over thirty years, and the involvement of its work team is felt at all levels of the company system. THis company, by up-dating its production equipment in a constant evolution of technical means, can stand on the national and international market and propose one of the most prestigious trade names with the highest standard of quality and safety of the user.

Seeing is believing! In the saddle of a Ganna bicycle you will discover new enticing sensations and the elegance of its harmonic design: don't just settle for any old thing.
Go for a Ganna!



Here is a pic of Luigi Ganna:


Here is my very own Ganna











Here is a 1930's Ganna (not mine)







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how did you do that? I yahooed and googled but all I got was old BF links. nice looking bike you got there, the suicide shifter on the '30s bike looks funky.
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Thanks BG. Mine is a high-ten bike-boom version, but I don't have anything against high-ten. (Some are actually quite good).

Because I had purchased one, I had researched this marque in the past. Seemingly a little obscure outside of Italy, but the Italians thought enough of Ganna that they issued a commemorative postage stamp.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
where do you live and is there any stickers on the bike saying where it was made?

it looks to me like much newer bike than what you might find on Hilary stone of myold bicycle. do the derailleurs, brakes, and brake/shift levers all say Xenon? anything on frame material?

this looks like a someone bought the name is buying tiawanes built bikes sort of like Bikes Direct does with Dawes and Motobecane

Xennon was not the best stuff , if it is rideable it might sell for $200-250, parting it out may be a pain in the bum. the shifters will go fast but the derailleurs and the brakes may take a long time to sell
The one picture shows the material as 7005 alloy aluminum and says made in italy

I really would rather sell the whole bike and not part it, I listed it on ebay earlier with a no reserve and starting bid of $200, I would think I could sell the wheels and scrap the rest for that amount???

thanks for all the info, it sure seems like finding info on a bike that doesn't look very old is not an easy thing especially with everything else you can find online
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.... I listed it on ebay earlier with a no reserve and starting bid of $200, I would think I could sell the wheels and scrap the rest for that amount??? ...

I think you'll lose your shirt with a no-reserve auction like that - especially with a "local pickup" option only.

- There is almost no chance that your neighbor will know/or care what it is.
- but if you do get a bite - it will probably be for your $200 asking price.
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The Ganna you bought does not have much in common with the Ganna of yesteryear. At least the name got revived on what appears to be a decent bike.
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
I think you'll lose your shirt with a no-reserve auction like that - especially with a "local pickup" option only.

- There is almost no chance that your neighbor will know/or care what it is.
- but if you do get a bite - it will probably be for your $200 asking price.
+1 Local pickup only option on ebay? Be prepared to give it away. Local pickup only = Sell on Craigs List. Local pickup only bikes are the best deal going as a buyer. I've scooped up several bikes that way, bought one two weeks ago.

+1 Shades of bikesdirect or similar reuse of an old brand for a generic asian bike. Made in Italy anymore often means assembled in Italy, with much of it sourced from China.
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
I think you'll lose your shirt with a no-reserve auction like that - especially with a "local pickup" option only.

- There is almost no chance that your neighbor will know/or care what it is.
- but if you do get a bite - it will probably be for your $200 asking price.
I don't think the bike is as nice as you think auchen... Xenon was Campy's answer to Sora. It is definitely nicer than Sora, but it is still a LOW end group. I'm pretty sure 10s Xenon stuff is priced simarly to 9s Sora. Also, I think this bike has about as much in common with your Ganna and that beautiful 1930's example as today's Motobecanes and Schwinns do with the classics of the same name.

Best bet for the OP would be to list in on Craigslist. Made in Italy and Campagnolo components (even though low end) will help for sure. Try for $350-400 range though.
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I don't think the bike is as nice as you think auchen... Xenon was Campy's answer to Sora. It is definitely nicer than Sora, but it is still a LOW end group. I'm pretty sure 10s Xenon stuff is priced simarly to 9s Sora. Also, I think this bike has about as much in common with your Ganna and that beautiful 1930's example as today's Motobecanes and Schwinns do with the classics of the same name.

Best bet for the OP would be to list in on Craigslist. Made in Italy and Campagnolo components (even though low end) will help for sure. Try for $350-400 range though.
Hi 4Rings6Stars !

I am sure you are right. I don't feign to know anything about new Campy bits or the newer bikes, but I'm sure any Italian brifter-bike is worth way more than $200. ( I'll subscribe to your 350-400 estimate then. )

Heck, if it was in my CL for $200 - even I might buy it - and I don't even like these new-fangled road bikes!
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Hi 4Rings6Stars !

I am sure you are right. I don't feign to know anything about new Campy bits or the newer bikes, but I'm sure any Italian brifter-bike is worth way more than $200. ( I'll subscribe to your 350-400 estimate then. )

Heck, if it was in my CL for $200 - even I might buy it - and I don't even like these new-fangled road bikes!
Again I am obviously new to the bike selling thing, do you think I should raise the start bid to $300 and include shipping to the USA? I would have to safely assume that the extra $100 should more than cover shipping? I can check that tomorrow
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Again I am obviously new to the bike selling thing, do you think I should raise the start bid to $300 and include shipping to the USA? I would have to safely assume that the extra $100 should more than cover shipping? I can check that tomorrow
I'll second 4Rings6Stars' appraisal of $350-$400. Toss it up on your local craigslist for $450 and settle for less. You also need to determine the frame size. Your measurements mean nothing to most serious riders. Measure the frame using this as a guideline:



ST = Seat tube
TT = Top tube
HT = Head tube

Those are probably sufficient. People also like to know frame angles, but that's more difficult to figure, so forget about that.

I'd also strip your ad copy of hyperbole. The guy you bought it from may have lived lavishly, but this is not a high end bike. It may have sold for $600-$700 new, but possibly even less. It's not new anymore.

Also edit out your comment about 22" tires. The wheels are 700c. The tires are 22mm wide.

If you're intent on ebay, offer shipping and professional packaging at an LBS. This will probably run you $100-$125 depending on where it ships and what your LBS charges for packaging. Give them a call, they'll know.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
the suicide shifter on the '30s bike looks funky.
It's a rare Vittoria Margherita, used by Gino Bartali when he left Legnano to race on frames with his own name on them:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bollate/5005744910/
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I totally agree about the pickup only option, I think you should find a LBS (local bike shop) and see what they charge to pack it up. shipping to most any point in US is about $45-50 so putting a shipping price of $100 may not be unreasonable if you state that XX dollars are for professional packing.
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current ebay bid $255 with 17hrs left better hurry
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