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HELP - identifying this modified frame and components - Vintage Ernie Clements Falcon

Old 03-29-11, 03:24 PM
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HELP - identifying this modified frame and components - Vintage Ernie Clements Falcon

Hi... I've just finished converting this 70s Ernie Clements Falcon Tourer.... I'm pretty please with the outcome - I am selling it on ebay - but the only problem is I'm not 100% sure on the parts, I have lost all my old listings/purchases etc as ebay only keeps for 90 days....

So can people out there give me the technical low-down on the frame, parts etc etc...

Here's the link, thank you so much....

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sergiojensen/?v=1
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Old 03-30-11, 12:31 PM
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Can anyone recognize any of the parts please or give me any info on the frame???
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Old 03-30-11, 12:58 PM
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Sorry can't help you with IDing parts, but those are very nice pictures on your flickr page. What country are you in?
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Old 03-30-11, 01:19 PM
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Huddersfield - England mate.....
Yeah my mate Sergio Jenson got some great shots......
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Wrap around seat stay. Olympic or San Remo.
Falcon info as well as '73 and '74 catalogs.
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I know its an ernie clements frame though, and he's not on there.....
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Looking at the head badge you have a Falcon it is either an Olympic or a San Remo frame. Tell me about the chrome its hard for me to tell from your pics.
All the Falcons even the current ones carry the Ernie Clements name. He has been dead for a number of years.
Hell maybe I'm wrong, maybe somebody put a Falcon head badge on your bike.
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No it is an ernie clements falcon, I have stripped it all dwn myself from the original...

So can no one tell me the brand names of the parts???
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Can anyone recognize any of the parts please or give me any info on the frame???
1. It sure looks like a Falcon around here. Post pictures of the bike before the paint and decals were all stripped off. That might also help in marketing the bike (prove some provenance).

2. The parts I see in your pictures have the brand names on them. I see a Sachs crankset. Hub is marked (Normandy?), rim is marked (Rigida), stem is branded.

I don't see those details having much effect on the bidding/pricing. The loss of the original paint and decals are the biggest drawback.

The FG/SS craze has really subsided here in the states. Might be different in the UK.


Most of the value of a vintage frame is in the paint and decals. Repainting and replacing decals can and often does exceed the value of the finished frame. Frames need to be pretty high up the product line to justify it financially. And once repainted, the value is still well below original, as collectors/enthusiasts want original stuff.

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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
1. It sure looks like a Falcon around here. Post pictures of the bike before the paint and decals were all stripped off. That might also help in marketing the bike (prove some provenance).
The bike could have had Falcon Decals, Clements Decals or Eddy Merckx Decals. They came off the same assembly line from my understanding of '60s/'70s factory. The EM would have had a different head badge/decal. The wrap around seat stay is a dead giveaway. It was a high end frame and still sought after.
The rest of the parts are just that, "parts".
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My early 70s San Remo came with Zeuss derailleures, bottom bracket and cranks, Campy Tipo hubs. and crappy, delicate no name rims I replaced with Fiammes. The Zeuss gear, Spanish Campy Record copies, was trouble free.

It came with bad, no name rat trap pedals that I replaced with Campy Record.

The brakes were Weinmann 999 center pulls.

Original cost was $200-250.

I'm still sorry that I sold it in the late 80s and would buy it back in a minute.
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