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Ross 1984 Signature Series

Old 04-12-11, 06:13 PM
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Ross 1984 Signature Series

I have a 1984 Ross Signature Series in almost mint condition with campy everything. Even the tires are original and state, "Ross", on them. I have been looking everywhere to see the value of this bike, as I know it is worth well over $500 - does anybody have any more information on these bikes? I may be looking to sell her because I just invested in a new bike.

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Old 04-12-11, 06:28 PM
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Maybe some photos of this mint jewel?
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Old 04-12-11, 07:39 PM
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Here are some photos of the bike:
https://img130.imageshack.us/i/dsc0077a.jpg/
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It's a nice bike, but I think that "well over $500" is optimistic. At least set the seat higher and replace the brake levers and handlebar foam before listing this anywhere to maximize your price.

Did Campagnolo ever make a turkey wing?
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Old 04-12-11, 07:54 PM
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That is nice. but you know, it's only worth what some one is willing to pay for it. There is not blue book for bikes sad to say.
But that is a nice High end ROSS... I have a gas pipe ROSS. 48 pounds. UGGGG just restored it.
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Old 04-12-11, 07:55 PM
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Well, being that Ross Signature Series are extremely rare, I looked up on another website how much the actual Signature series are and the pricing was very high. I was thinking about replacing the handlebar foam and maybe getting somebody to touch up the seat, etc.
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I'm in love with that bike and that horse!
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Old 04-12-11, 08:45 PM
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Yeah, you're right. And some other guy is going to think your pricing validates his, too.

If I found one in my size, locally, I'd pay as much as $200.
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"The Ross Signature models could range anywhere from $400.00 - $2,100.00 US depending on the model. To peg things down better, you need to know the tubing and Campagnolo group."

I just read that, wondering why some are priced lower than others.
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Old 04-12-11, 08:52 PM
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The turkey levers are not Campy they are Shimano, the crankset and other bits are Campy.
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Nice but not $500 nice.
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Old 04-12-11, 08:58 PM
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Uhmmm.... not a $500+ bike. It's an upper mid level bike judging from the components and what looks to be Tange(?) tubing. In good shape which the OPs looks like it could fetch as much as $300ish dollars on a real good day if the seller can hook up with someone looking for this particular bike, and in the mid 200's if there is significant wear on the bike/ At least the frame seems to be nicely built and complete with all the good brazed-on bits and well painted. Plus any Campy stuff will always add a little bit. What's really going agaist it is the Ross name which does not automatically equate to something high line for many cyclists as most of the Ross bikes they encountered out there are of the gaspipe, 40 pound variety sold in department stores.
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(Almost) anyone interested in a high-end Campagnolo equipped bicycle is not going to be interested in turkey wings unless they're getting a sweet deal.

I actually have a soft-spot for Ross. I spent many years not too far from Allentown, and have a low-end Ross mountain bike that I occasionally ride when I visit my family. I just don't see an easy $500 sale on that.
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Have a stable of bikes? Best to swap out the components you may want (i.e., Campagnolo stuff) if they are in great shape. Then get everything in order and sell it. IMHO, spoke protector on rear wheel and turkey levers on the brakes are heading you into the $175++ range, so you don't want to give up the Campy stuff at that price. There are quite a few options for $500, plus some really nice Tiagra (even 105) equipped bargains online for under $700 brand-new to your door.

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It looks like a 294s. Campy Triomphe. Ishiwata 024 tubing. Not worth 500$, maybe 3-350$ on a good day, partly because of small size , and you'd have to sell it to someone who can get around the name "Ross" on the bike. More like 250$ most days, if you want it to move even less.

The valuable Rosses were the Kellog/Redcay built customs, also called "Signatures" IIRC. Your bike is designed by Kellog, but not built by him. They're nice, under-rated bikes, and I have one (the 294, not the Kellog/Redcays). Those are worth the kind of coin you are talking, but again, you must get over the Ross factor.
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Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
The valuable Rosses were the Kellog/Redcay built customs, also called "Signatures" IIRC. Your bike is designed by Kellog, but not built by him. They're nice, under-rated bikes, and I have one (the 294, not the Kellog/Redcays). Those are worth the kind of coin you are talking, but again, you must get over the Ross factor.
This is the source of a lot of the confusion. Jeff Duser and one or two other guys also ran the "Signature" shop that Kellogg set up. Those bikes are generally very nice and can command good prices, though $2100 is a real stretch even for a Kellogg or Redcay version. The garden-variety Signatures traded off the concept Kellogg helped established - a common marketing tactic of larger manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
This is the source of a lot of the confusion. Jeff Duser and one or two other guys also ran the "Signature" shop that Kellogg set up. Those bikes are generally very nice and can command good prices, though $2100 is a real stretch even for a Kellogg or Redcay version. The garden-variety Signatures traded off the concept Kellogg helped established - a common marketing tactic of larger manufacturers.
^^^ I would trust this guy before me. However, I would know one of these shop bikes in a heartbeat, and pay money for one-- though I don't think it'd be 2100$. I'd probably pay about 500$ for a complete one, maybe a bit more.
The garden variety ones are very nice, but they are not 500$ bikes by any stretch of the imagination.
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^^^ I would trust this guy before me. However, I would know one of these shop bikes in a heartbeat, and pay money for one-- though I don't think it'd be 2100$. I'd probably pay about 500$ for a complete one, maybe a bit more.
The garden variety ones are very nice, but they are not 500$ bikes by any stretch of the imagination.
A Kellogg or Redcay "Signature," in good condition and well-equipped (at least some were Super Record) would easily be a 1K bike.
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I know this is an old thread to bump, but I found this posting of a bike similar to the OP. This might be of value for someone seeking to - find the market value or purchase one of these Ross Signatures….

Listed here is a nice 1984 Tom Kellogg 292S Lightweight Special Edition - all original and in great condition for $300.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/4288348470.html

p.s. I am not the seller
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Originally Posted by heath9_00 View Post
I know this is an old thread to bump, but I found this posting of a bike similar to the OP. This might be of value for someone seeking to - find the market value or purchase one of these Ross Signatures….

Listed here is a nice 1984 Tom Kellogg 292S Lightweight Special Edition - all original and in great condition for $300.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/4288348470.html



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If I were buying, I would offer 200$ tops. Big size, tough sell, Ross, tough sell. It will not go at 300$.
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I haven't posted in a while, and I know this is an old thread, but since I have a Tom Kellogg Ross I thought I would add some info: the listed $500-$2100 was for the Signature series bikes when they were New, not now. The bike pictured above is Not a Tom Kellogg built bike. The Kellogg/Redcay bikes are Signature only, they do not have a number (290,292,294 etc.) The number bikes are nice, but not in the class of the Kellogg bikes.
I momentarily tried to sell mine last year, full Campy (triompheonly), nice bars, Concor, etc. I was asking $500 at the Velodrome swap, no buyers at that price so I kept it.
I have been into bikes for years, I have worked at some serious shops, I have owned or ridden just about every classic bike you can imagine, and honestly the Tom Kellogg bikes (Ross or Spectrum) are among the best riding, handling and constructed bikes out there. As I said the bike pictured above is not a "Real" Signature bike, but if you do find one in your size I suggest you grab it, you will not be disappointed.
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