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Old 04-24-11, 12:41 AM
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MIYATA 312/ Bike suggestions

Hey guys, this is my first post here..I recently have gotten into biking, and as I have an 85 roadmaster scorcher at the moment, im looking to upgrade. Preferrably to something light and quick, unlike my scorcher.
I've been looking at this Miyata 312-https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2326748225.html
I have found a little bit of info on here, but is this a good bike for the price? Also, how is it on weight?

What do you guys think? My price ideal range is around 200, or maybe up to 300 for something slick. Any suggestions for bikes to keep my eye out for?
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That is a big Miyata with a stand over height of 34 1/2" it's probably a 25" frame, maybe 23". How tall are you? You would need to be 6' or taller to ride it comfortably, YMMV. You can see the seat post is shoved all the way in since the bike is too large for the current rider.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwl...0-h/img042.jpg

FWIW, the bike is a 310 and has double butted cro moly tubing, hi-ten fork and 27" wheels. The 312 was made in 1988, (maybe other years). I have had both of them. If the 310 fits you and is in great shape it might be a $200 bike. Depends on your location. That would be top of the market where I live but it's definitely worth a look. Just make sure the seat post moves up and down.
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Originally Posted by TypedBiacuit
I've been looking at this Miyata 312


With the shifters on top of the down tube, and the red/white decal on the seat tube, I believe this is a 1984 310. Good riding bikes and if this one is truly in good "Ready to ride" condition, would sell for about $175-200 in my market. If it needs tires, brakes, etc, it would be a $100-125 bike.

Catalog page: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwl...0-h/img058.jpg

Specs page: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwl...0-h/img075.jpg
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The eighties 310's are pretty nice riding bikes - I've had good luck selling two of them recently in very nice condition, for well over $200 -(A real feat in this market, but it seems that no Japanese nameplate is more respected than Miyata.)

PS - Sizing is a personal thing - The sizing charts say I should ride a bike several sizes smaller than what I need to ride comfortably.
It is best to ride, and then decide what works for you.
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I'm about 5'6-7-8ish, but i've ridden my friends ( who is 6'0-6'2) and it was only a little to big, if I was to adjust the seat on his bike I think it would be a comfortable ride.
Regrettably, this week is finals week at my uni, so I wont be able to check it out until the weekend. But if it fits me, and everything is in good condition, i'd buy it.

Which is a nicer bike, the Miyata or this Panasonic Sport?
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2337319369.html

Thanks guys!
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Do you expand and contract? The seat/saddle on the Miyata is not going any lower. If you like to ride a BIG bike then try the Miyata on for size but that Panasonic is most likely a better fit for your height. I won't say it's a good deal or not but I think the Sport model was pretty low down the quality chain in the line up and it's been listed for 4 days. Some of the upgrades mentioned are questionable as well but might not mean too much if we start talking about Maillard hubs and such.

Try them both if you have the time and do some research, google= good. https://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Naa I just dont know my height exactly. I've grown fond of that Miyata and i'm really hoping i'll be able to check it out before it sells/after my finals. From the research i've done, I'm assuming that the Mailiard hubs are high quality. I'm quite new to this, excuse my n00b ways :/
but thanks tmh657
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Even if he "includes" the rear brake, the Panasonic still isn't a good deal.
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Originally Posted by wrk101

Sport price is $100 too high.
I had a friend send me that link and tell me how awesome of a bike it is, I was skeptical, but now I know for sure. Thanks.
I have patience, so if the Miyata goes, I can wait. In the mean time, I however, might drop into a local bike shop and sit on a few different size frames to see which fits the best.
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Good to know your target size first, I would guess a 54cm (21 inch frame). Once you know your size, pounce on a deal. Don't know a deal? Spend some time getting educated, with google, its not hard at all.

In any financial transaction, the person with the most knowledge wins. Right now, that balance is in favor of the seller. With a little education, it could be in your favor.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
In any financial transaction, the person with the most knowledge wins. Right now, that balance is in favor of the seller. With a little education, it could be in your favor.
Yes, Yes. I'm doing my best to bone up on all this bike knowledge but its pretty scattered about. This Forum is the closest thing to a cohesive guide to buying/owning a bike that I've found so far. Whenever I find a bike I like on CL, I search it on this forum to see what the estimated value on it is, etc etc. I know the good brands to be looking for and the ones to avoid, I think. But as far as components go, I'm completely lost as to whats good and whats not.
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Its bikes like this Peugeot that keep distracting me from my essay on T.S. Eliot.
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2343962464.html
Its a shame that its out of my price range, and the frame is to small for me. just thought I would share that beauty with everyone thats helping me out
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Originally Posted by TypedBiacuit
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I have patience, so if the Miyata goes, I can wait. In the mean time, I however, might drop into a local bike shop and sit on a few different size frames to see which fits the best.
At 5'7" I agree with the others that the 25" framed Miyata will be too large for you, so no real loss there - though it is a nice bike.

Most local bike shops are the worst possible place to learn about the sizing of C&V bikes with horizontal top tubes: Unless your LBS is C&V friendly (most stores today aren't) they will try to sell you on a modern "compact frame", which assumes one size fits all (small!).

- If you are familiar with riding your friend's bike and deem it to be "only a little too large" - then scope out a few slightly smaller road bikes on Craigslist for size. - Even if you don't buy any of them, you will get a better idea of what you can ride most comfortably.
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I have an appointment to see the Miyata on thursday. If it is too big (which i'm assuming it will be) I also have an appointment to check out this Fuji Absolute which will likely be more my size
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2344857126.html

I guess my question now is, which is a better bike? I did some research on both, but nowhere really says which is preferential.
Also, I plan to be more active on this forum once finals week at school is over
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I know I keep throwing around bikes blindly asking, is this one good, but I found another one. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2347528434.html Its a Sekai competition. It appears to be in good condition, and from What I researched..this bike is pretty middle of the road. However there are a few things on it thay I think are upgrades That may make it worth my while, such as the handle bar shifters and possibly some components. Any opinions? As always, Its greatly appreciated
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Originally Posted by TypedBiacuit
I know I keep throwing around bikes blindly asking, is this one good, but I found another one. https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/2347528434.html Its a Sekai competition. It appears to be in good condition, and from What I researched..this bike is pretty middle of the road. However there are a few things on it thay I think are upgrades That may make it worth my while, such as the handle bar shifters and possibly some components. Any opinions? As always, Its greatly appreciated
+1 This Sekai looks like a reasonable price for a decent mid level Japanese bike with some decent components. Check it out - see if it fits - see if the seller will deal.
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+1 This Sekai looks like a reasonable price for a decent mid level Japanese bike with some decent components. Check it out - see if it fits - see if the seller will deal.
Thanks for the advice. I ended up getting it. The gear cable broke as I was test riding it, so I got the bike for $130. It fits me perfectly and its pretty as hell. Right now its in the shop getting that fixed and a minor tune up, in addition to getting handle bar wrap. Thanks for the advice everyone, I'll see you around the forum!
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Originally Posted by TypedBiacuit
....The gear cable broke as I was test riding it, so I got the bike for $130.....
Forty bucks off for a two-bit gear cable? Hmmm... I have to figure out how to make that happen when I go to buy a bike.
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Forty bucks off for a two-bit gear cable? Hmmm... I have to figure out how to make that happen when I go to buy a bike.
Haha, I knew as soon as it happened that I could take full advantage of it. I'll probably post some pictures of it soon! Thanks again! I'm a happy man right now!
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https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ai-Competition
Pictures of my bike+ my new thread. Sigghh I'm such a newbb
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Any one know the geometry of the 23" 1988 312?
The catolog online is not readable on any of my 3 browsers.
Just looking at the pictures:
56cm top tube?
73 degrees seat tube?
73.5 head tube?
42 cm chain stays?
50mm rake?
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