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Unknown Cinelli Stamped Frame

Old 06-08-11, 05:27 PM
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Unknown Cinelli Stamped Frame

Unknown frame I picked up today, really nice and built up with all 6400 Durace.
At the BB it is marked Cinelli, but the fork and drops are both stamped Shimano
which puzzled me, any help identifying it would be awesome. It also has indoor
brake cables. I have a few pictures I will post, hopefully someone can help me
identify this frame.

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Old 06-08-11, 05:58 PM
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I don't know what it is but that seatlug is nice. could be some small builder using Cinelli BB shells
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Old 06-08-11, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I don't know what it is but that seatlug is nice. could be some small builder using Cinelli BB shells
Some more images of the seat stay top end, the stay bridges, and the fork crown and head lugs including underside shots might jog a memory.
I agree, small American or Canadian builder. The shifter seat post pinch bolt and fastback treatment point that way. Shimano dropouts are uncommon, but for a short time Shimano was pushing them, and even gave away a few sets just for guys to try.
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Some more images of the seat stay top end, the stay bridges, and the fork crown and head lugs including underside shots might jog a memory.
I agree, small American or Canadian builder. The shifter seat post pinch bolt and fastback treatment point that way. Shimano dropouts are uncommon, but for a short time Shimano was pushing them, and even gave away a few sets just for guys to try.
Here are a few, I am working on more my photobucket is failing right now.





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May have found a possible match, The-Climb.net https://www.the-climb.net/2011/01/lig...im-neenan.html the
Lighthouse I have seen has quite a few similar attributes. The lugs are looks similar, not identical though, also the fork and
seat stays look almost the same, and they were both built up with Dura Ace 7400. After looking at these pictures I have also
noticed I may need a new left crank arm ) =.

Any thoughts on these similarities?
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Looks to be a match, picked it up in Santa Barbra https://www.lighthousecycles.com/ .
Gonna email them tomorrow to possibly get more information on the frame, really fun
find, can't wait to get the details.
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I don't think so, but it might jog a memory.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
I don't think so, but it might jog a memory.
Damn really. I thought for sure I had a match, not the same bike but seemed to be same style, and the fork to me looks identical to some of the other bikes on the Light house website. Also on my Dura Ace crank you see the letters look as if they were filled in with yellow, just like the one on The-Climb.net. I could be wrong, just seemed to be the closest match, and also made more sense seeing how I picked it up in Santa Barbra

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Originally Posted by rrotello View Post
Damn really. I thought for sure I had a match, not the same bike but seemed to be same style, and the fork to me looks identical to some of the other bikes on the Light house website. Also on my Dura Ace crank you see the letters look as if they were filled in with yellow, just like the one on The-Climb.net. I could be wrong, just seemed to be the closest match, and also made more sense seeing how I picked it up in Santa Barbra
Small possibility Mike Celmins, and that is just a guess. There were a few small builders in Santa Barbara, Mike was said to favor Cinelli bottom brackets, the fork crown I think is a Takahashi. I think there is a chance when it was possibly repainted it was modified, the internal top tube cable routing and the shift cable noodles point later than the dropouts and crown. The BB shell... I don't remember when that one was introduced, maybe early 80's... if so then the noodles may be original.
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Any ideas on zeroing in on a solid match?
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The tough thing is many custom builders sometimes just used whatever they have around when building a frame. It just depends on what/who the build is for. Personally, I've built bikes with Cinelli BB, Shimano dropouts and Henry James lugs and fork crown. On some I've used Dropouts from Campy, Ritchey, and Henry James as well. Is there a serial number anywhere on the bike? We always engraved a build date and the customers name on the steerer tube of all our bikes.
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Originally Posted by rrotello View Post
Any ideas on zeroing in on a solid match?
I think this is a candidate for the Classic Rendezvous google group.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
I think this is a candidate for the Classic Rendezvous google group.
Thanks I will look into it, hopefully find a match.
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