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1975 deluxe touring paramount

Old 06-11-11, 12:28 PM
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1975 deluxe touring paramount

I have this paramount that my brother bought new. I have the original brochure w/ all pertinent info. I want to sell it but I have no idea what I should expect to get for it. Any ideas as to a value would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-11-11, 01:43 PM
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That looks very, very pretty. And well-kept. And original, as far as I can tell. I would think that anywhere from $700 to $1000 would be achievable, maybe more with the right buyer.
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Old 06-11-11, 01:55 PM
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Search completed auctions on ebay, several Paramounts are always selling. Completed gives you the data on what ultimately was paid.
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Old 06-11-11, 08:46 PM
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everything is as it was when he bought it. I was cleaning it up and just amazed at how pristine it looks.
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Old 06-11-11, 10:21 PM
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it's not original, the brakes aren't right. Same goes for the front derailleur and the skewers. Handlebars look wrong too. Paramounts have been going for over 1k on ebay, but not being original is going to hurt this one unless you find a buyer that doesn't care.

I've been hanging out on the Classic Rendezvous list too much. It's not original, but it's a really nice looking bike
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it's not original, the brakes aren't right. Same goes for the front derailleur and the skewers. Handlebars look wrong too. Paramounts have been going for over 1k on ebay, but not being original is going to hurt this one unless you find a buyer that doesn't care.

I've been hanging out on the Classic Rendezvous list too much. It's not original, but it's a really nice looking bike
Whats not right about any of those. With the possible exception of the FD being replaced over the last 30+, which would not surprise me too much, the rest looks OK?
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Old 06-12-11, 07:44 AM
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levers and calipers should be campagnolo. Bars look like a track model instead of road. I can't make out the skewer details. Nice bike!
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On closer inspection, decals and cable braze ons suggest this is not even a 1975 frame, but much earlier 70s.
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What is the serial #? Should be on the left rear dropout.
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On closer inspection, decals and cable braze ons suggest this is not even a 1975 frame, but much earlier 70s.
Yes, that's right. The 1975 Paramount would not have had the olympic circles panel seat tube decal, it would only have had the world championship stripes.

The Campy top tube rear brake cable clamps were on the P13-9 Professional Road Racer; the P10-9 and P15-9 touring models had top tube braze-ons for the rear brake cable.
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levers and calipers should be campagnolo. Bars look like a track model instead of road. I can't make out the skewer details. Nice bike!
I would have thought that a touring model would have centerpulls, but some of them came with drop-bolt campagnolo brakes. My thought is these aren't the original wheels, I don't remember what Parmounts came with, but the rims don't look right to me. I don't think you could even get non-silver rims in '75. That started later. As far as the skewers go, I don't think they were coming with cpsc skewers then. Schwinn had their own bent skewers, but they were the old style nuts IIRC.

How many '75 Parmounts had braze-on levers and water bottle cages? It wasn't nearly as common back then. It's one of the problems with old Parmounts, the decals are screwed up because of the water bottle cage clips

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Apologies to dial-up users, but here are the 1975 Paramount specifications for the P13-9, P15-9, and P10-9 models. Available factory options for brakes, wheels, shifters, etc., are noted. Provided with the serial number, Waterford can supply a provenance report with the model and possibly some details of the bike as delivered from the factory for a nominal charge. Water bottle cage braze-ons were not offered either as standard or an option in 1975.







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Old 06-12-11, 07:24 PM
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Serial # is H75105 Sorry I don't know much about old bikes. After looking at the original brochure there is a sales tag that says "P13 23" silvermist" then dated 9-30-75 and signed by seller. He had it repainted at waterford in black mettalic.

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Thats definitely a 75. But its repainted and, they put the wrong decals on it.

The repainting is going to really lower the value. Also, the P13 is not the touring, which explains the braze ons and perhaps the bars.
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