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Dave Scott Centurion Expert - Good Buy?

Old 06-18-11, 04:08 PM
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Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert - Good Buy?

I am looking at a Dave Scott Centurion Expert for $160. The owner couldn't tell me the year of the bike and regrettably didn't have any pictures. He did say it looked to be in very good condition with tires in good condition. There has been no recent maintenance on the bike. My question is how good of a buy is this? I know this could be hard without knowing the components or seeing the condition but please help me in whatever way you can. Also if someone could tell me what components to look for when I go to check out the bike I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

-The color is dark blue if that can give any help on year
-Standover is 30 and 3/4"

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Old 06-18-11, 04:22 PM
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Its an average price for an original equipped in good condition. The owner should at least be able to tell you frame color and any names/labels printed on the components. From that, you can research year.
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Like you said, it's hard to tell without pictures. If it's in good condition, that's a good deal. Depending on the year it would have Shimano 600 or Suntour GPX.
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Old 06-18-11, 04:31 PM
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All the Experts had 105 so why worry about it. The correct size is the important point. If you need a complete bike then good condition is important. Parts are so cheap that most people upgrade them. If it has all original parts they are going to be 22-26 years old. New chain and dérailleurs are not expensive. The Master had 600 but it is realy the same as 105. I have had every year of the Expert and they all had good parts on them. If I was going to keep the bike for myselt I have used newer 105 or Dura Ace
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Old 06-18-11, 04:39 PM
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I thought the Expert had the nicer components. Sorry for posting wrong information.
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Originally Posted by brian3069 View Post
I thought the Expert had the nicer components. Sorry for posting wrong information.
You're thinking of the Master. Actually, many of us think of a Master.
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Old 06-18-11, 06:23 PM
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Hay Weller I just noticed that you are new here so welcome aboard. Sorry if I came across rather harsh. I think the late model 1980-1989 Centurions are great bikes. I am a bike flipper and have sold over two dozen Centurions. I have sold all the mint condition one for well over $300. I sold them all except one that was so rusted that it had very little paint left on it.I striped the remaining paint from the frame and took a file to it to get rid of all the pitted rust. I filled all the dings with boddy filler and primed and painted it all with auto paint. I have a original 1987 Serotta 7/11 bike so I painted Centurion to look exactly like it right down to the 7 speed Dura-Ace components.
I paid $100 for that rusted ,corroded Centurion site unseen. That was a extreme case of getting carried away with a project. If I saw a super nice stock Ironman for $160 and it was my size and I needed a bike to ride I would grab it. Change the cables even if they look good. It makes a big difference. If you get the bike post some pictures.
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Thanks for the input and guidance, I am very new to this and really appreciate the help. If I do decide to buy the bike I will be sure to get some pictures up.
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Make sure it's your size.....
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The color is dark blue? You sure?
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Good price. Check out ebay and local craigslist ads. Probably going for $250 or more in good condition. I have a 48-50cm for sale, not taking less than $275. No need to sell as of yet.

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Originally Posted by EddyR View Post
If I saw a super nice stock Ironman for $160 and it was my size and I needed a bike to ride I would grab it. Change the cables even if they look good. It makes a big difference. If you get the bike post some pictures.
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I agree with Eddy In the fact that, this could be a great "for now" bike, till you get the cash saved to buy a better one, then, this could easily be used as a backup, whenever yours needs to go to the shop. The price is right too, those DSI's(Dave Scott Ironman's), seem to last forever...I know someone, who had one in the 80s, and still has it, and rides it from time to time. Maybe try offering a little less for it, like say $130, and see what the seller says? Might be able to get it for a little cheaper, and use the money saved, to get new comps for it?
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Old 06-22-11, 03:12 PM
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Prices for about 2-3 years have averaged $230-$275 depending upon condition, plus shipping, on eBay. Bear in mind those are auctions and I've not kept data for about 18 months. There's been a slight dip as availability is up a little and the economy has people selling. I just saw a mint '88 Expert go on CL for $180, and in my opinion, it was a steal (drrobwave bought it). In comparison, there's a similarly-equipped Nishiki in his area for $275, and it's pretty much the same bike, seller won't budge.

There are bargains still to be had on this available and very nice bike, the strength of which is the frameset, with excellent components, especially now that I'm seeing a lot of them in the $200-$250 range.

The black Expert is not a 105 bike, as it's a 1989, and the 1989 Experts came with Suntour GPX, a lightweight and handsome group very comparable to 105. The ones I've had, I'd rate the GPX performance between the 105 and the 600 for that year. The headset was Tange Levin CD for all the '89 models. The Experts in '89 were in all-black or blue smoked fade, though there is no "book" on the available colors.

1989 saw a geometry change, per Centurion, but it was not confirmed by magazine tests, as the ones they tested did not seem to be different. However, anecdotal evidence on 3 of the black ones has their owners (all of whom have other Ironmen) convinced that the black frame is a little more aggressive, or maybe it just "feels" faster.

I'd certainly buy it for $160, all day, every day, especially a black one. BF member thirdgenbird has a very nice model, and I've built a couple, only to have offers made that I couldn't refuse.

I'm sorry I missed this post, as I don't go to this thread very often. I did answer the OP in messaging, and I hope it helps.

Unlike others, I see no need to upgrade bikes, as I upgraded the Ironman bikes I have and see no advantage otherwise. Almost everyone seems to have had one at some time, or knew someone that did, so you're always on a bike that people recognize.
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