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Sigh... Buyers remorse

Old 10-31-11, 06:18 PM
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Sigh... Buyers remorse

So I went out and got this Univega Nuovo Sport today through Craig's List. I drove 80 miles round trip to get it, and paid $100 (asking was $125). Now after bringing it home I wish I had walked away from the deal. Lots of rusted parts, the cassette seems to skip a beat on the clicking when it spins, and it's a bit too small for me.

Anyone want to cheer me up??
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Old 10-31-11, 06:31 PM
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It's triple-butted! Forged dropouts!

As a rider, I'd say it was worth a Benjamin. Think about how little that would buy you elsewhere....

A year from now, you can probably still sell it for $75-100 if you decide you want to get rid of it.
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Old 10-31-11, 08:04 PM
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Clean it up and you could easily get $150 for it with good pictures. It's definitely worth 100, even right now.

The only tragedy would be if it's really too small for you. Then it's worthless (to you at least.)
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Old 10-31-11, 10:19 PM
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rust can be removed easily.. search in C&V

besides sizing,, not bad deal imo
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-I'm tearing up-

That was the first real bike I owed. It was it or a Yellow Centurion accordo for my $350 Christmas present. It toured england (flew pan-am), went to uni and ended its life on the rear end of a classic Porche.

The good:

Of all the years the nouvo sport was made that is the frame you want. Triple butted lugged Japanese OEM miyata goodness. In 1988 or 89 they were sourced to Taiwan and tig. IMHO you own one of the best price performance frames made.

The bad:

The 27in stock rims were not good. Even whimpy me busted an axel one day. Pedals were junky too.

PS: Saddle is not orig. Everything else looks right. I always liked the white cables, hoods and saddle against the frame color though my hoods were always dirty :-).
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Old 10-31-11, 11:15 PM
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wow, I had that bike when I was a kid! It was a hand down but really good shape... didn't know anything about triple butting but wish I did!
I remember desperately trying to remove the plastic disc behind the freewheel so I could look professional!

Mine was a dark metallic green w/ gold pinstripes around the lugs and lettering. I remember that Nuovo Sport logo and goofy Univega font!
For some reason I remember that seatpost too.

That's a really cool find!
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Old 11-01-11, 08:01 AM
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Pfffft, those parts aren't rusted.
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For $100? Stop having remorse, that's a deal. A little TLC and that will be a great bike.
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Old 11-01-11, 08:30 AM
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When I get buyer's remorse (and I do), I just clean up the bike, sell it, and move on. Properly prepared and well marketed, you will make money on this one.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
When I get buyer's remorse (and I do), I just clean up the bike, sell it, and move on. Properly prepared and well marketed, you will make money on this one.
What he said, plus life is too short to ride a bike that is too small for you. And judging buy your seat post and stem it looks like you need the next size up.
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Old 11-01-11, 10:36 AM
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I'll throw another thought out there: Sometimes you have a buy a "dud" to calibrate your eye. The things on this bike you don't like, you'll look for on the next one you buy. Having this bad taste in your mouth will help you walk away from other bikes in the future. And you hardly lost your shirt on the deal; you should be able to flip it and make a few bucks.
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Old 11-01-11, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SumoMuffin View Post
So I went out and got this Univega Nuovo Sport today through Craig's List. I drove 80 miles round trip to get it, and paid $100 (asking was $125). Now after bringing it home I wish I had walked away from the deal. Lots of rusted parts, the cassette seems to skip a beat on the clicking when it spins, and it's a bit too small for me.

Anyone want to cheer me up??
Quit crying and get to work cleaning it. If it's too small then when you have it clean and shinier take good pics then flip it for $150.
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Old 11-01-11, 11:12 AM
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I wouldn't feel remorseful over that buy at all. The only real rust I see is on the chain, and that's a consumable part anyway. Check out "The frame doesn't fit pass around game" on C&V if it's too small--I don't think you'd have any trouble trading triple-butted chromoly for something very nice in your size. There are several members there who are looking for something a little smaller.
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Old 11-01-11, 11:55 AM
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Agreed with above , maybe a new chain and freewheel I imagine any skipping problems will be solved. As far as size that's sort of out of my wheelhouse.
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Seat post and stem position = frame too small.

Skipping usually = worn out freewheel. You can buy a replacement cheap at walmart.com, and replace the chain as well, and then polish up the rest of it.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
I'll throw another thought out there: Sometimes you have a buy a "dud" to calibrate your eye. The things on this bike you don't like, you'll look for on the next one you buy. Having this bad taste in your mouth will help you walk away from other bikes in the future. And you hardly lost your shirt on the deal; you should be able to flip it and make a few bucks.
I fully agree! As one guilty of making bad purchases, I've become a better buyer by learning from my mistakes. Thankfully, I've never lost money on a purchase, but there have been numerous times when I didn't make any.
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Old 11-01-11, 04:45 PM
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Thanks for all the great replies guys. Now that you all have pointed out all of these things I feel better about the purchase. I'm very new to bike flipping and repairing, so the eye calibration notion is one I like a lot. I also absolutely love the colour of the bike, that's the main reason why I committed to driving out to see it.

The rust I referred to is mainly in "hidden" locations on various hardware, see attached pics. My, plan is to get it off with oxalic acid. The frame is 54cm from the middle of the bottom bracket to the top of the seat tube, I'm 6' tall. It doesn't feel terribly awkward, but my understanding is that a larger frame would be better. I still haven't disassembled the rear hub/freewheel to diagnose the skipping.

I'm going to fix, ride it, and have fun doing both until I can find another bike I like more, then hopefully flip it for a profit.
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Originally Posted by SumoMuffin View Post
The frame is 54cm from the middle of the bottom bracket to the top of the seat tube, I'm 6' tall.
You'll want a 58-60cm frame. I'm 5' 9", 56cm is perfect for me. I have a 54 and the saddle-to-bar drop is a little much for longer rides.
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Originally Posted by SumoMuffin View Post

The rust I referred to is mainly in "hidden" locations on various hardware, see attached pics. My, plan is to get it off with oxalic acid.
If getting your hands on some is at all challenging , I had great success with removing all the rusted hardware I can and letting it soak in vinegar for a few days than giving them a good scrubbing. Harder with stuff that doesn't easily remove from the bike but I worked around that with paper towel / plastic wrap . #Imcheap.
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Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
You'll want a 58-60cm frame. I'm 5' 9", 56cm is perfect for me. I have a 54 and the saddle-to-bar drop is a little much for longer rides.
Maybe, but this widely varies based on leg length, torso length, arm length etc. For me, I'm almost 5'-10" and a 56 is at the very top size I can ride comfortably. I feel much better on a 55 or 54, and no, I don't have a huge amount of seatpost showing, I just have short legs. Bike fit is tough to diagnose over the internet based only on height.
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I'd say that $100 was a pretty decent deal. If it were mine, there's no way I'd sell it that low. I've gotten more for bare frames in the past.
By the looks of it, 90% of what it needs is just time and labor spent cleaning off some rust and old grease.

When I get a bike like that I basically tear it completely down and begin with cleaning everything first. Then I reassemble, re-grease, and adjust.
Steel parts can be cleaned with wire wheel cleaner in a bowl, you can still buy this at most auto parts stores. Do not get this stuff on aluminum or paint.
Other than that your best bet is a brass brush and some bronze wool then a coat of clear paint once it's all rust free.

However, if you don't intend to keep it, keep in mind you probably won't get your labor back out of it when it sells.
Clean the major rust off, make sure everything works, do a basic cleaning and sell it if it in the spring if you decide it's just not your size.

With a good cleaning and with everything lubed up and working proper I'd say that should bring in the $200 range to the right buyer.
However for me it's been hard to sell smaller frame bikes. Anything under 57cm has always been a tough sell here.
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Its a terrific bike, I had a Competitzione that I regret selling more than anything - Similar frame, at worst clean it up, part it out and flip it. Great bike - good wall hanger for visiting friends.
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There are up sides to this experience. Last year I purchased a Trek 750, a wonderful bike I lusted after when it was new and I could not afford. One appeared on CL and in my surprise I called to set an appointment to see/buy it for the $75 asking price. One ride down the block was enough to seal the deal. I was hooked.

Only later did I realize that the frame was unforgivably small. By this timeI replaced the Grip Shifters with Rapid Fire shifters from a bike I bought for parts, added a rack and a new set of Michelin World Tours. Weighing all possible options to force the bike to fit me I gave up and after a thorough cleaning, and a lube job and listed on CL. The second interested party who inquired bought it for for my asking price, $ 195. My out of pocket cost? $115 for the bike and tires, all of the "upgrades" were essentially free. The lesson I learned from the experience was invaluable. YES I needed an ATB, NO I will not allow my enthusiasm for a given bike overwhelm my judgment.

To the point of your concerns about the freewheel and chain. Before going any further by deepening your outlay, check the teeth on the freewheel to insure that they are not too heavily worn. If not, lubricate the freewheel and chain thoroughly. Assuming the brakes and shifters are working, take a few short rides over a few days. The problems may go away.

Good Luck!

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