terrors

I may make a trade for a frame and was looking at this one. I don't have a pic of the whole frame just the fork crown and the part of the head lug. The panto on the headlug is the same as on the fork. The frame is decalled Rossin but this doesn't look like their branding. No other panto on the bike. BB is Cinelli. Any ideas?

T-Mar

Looks like the "U" for Umberto Dei.

terrors

thanks t-mar. I did do a bit of searching after you mentioned Dei but couldn't see anything they had made that had this type of panto. The bikes I saw were mostly older ones and the ones at there current website didn't show any roadbikes. I am quite sure it is not a Rossin tho. It is a well made Italian bike.

Hum3

I don't think it's a Rossin either.

The decals lead me to suspect that they we're custom added: these ones are quite known to be sometimes found on 'non-Rossin' bikes. Also, that little multi-coloured sticker is from those Ciclolinea bartapes from the eighties (which are meant to be taped around the handlebar - where the tape ends).

Interesting panto though, might be a quality '80's Italian frame indeed. (BB from Cinelli seems like a good sign.)

Chicago Al 

I don't know anything about Rossin, but as usual follow threads like this in order to learn. The comment above about the striped decal on the frame being from handlebar tape...I think it may be a little more complicated. I've seen a Dutch frame, a Zieleman, with similar tape on the chainstays, and a strip of it on the seat tube. But on the seat tube it's a wider strip with the colors surrounded by white, with a Z and the Zieleman name prominently printed. So I wonder if the stripe decoration was something more generic, maybe something a small maker could get customized from the printer?

terrors

Hi Al, if you google Ciclolinea you will see they are still around the the style of the logo is the same, ie: the stylized 'c' and 'l' that look like chevrons with one with a leg up I thing Hum 3 is right. The pantograph on the lug and the fork crown is what I really would like to identify.

Chicago Al 

Hi, Terrors...don't mean to hijack your thread; it was just a coincidence that I read the above post and then saw the pics I was talking about...copied (poorly) here. As you can see, very much like the ciclolinea tape, and maybe the ones from the chainstays are recycled from that, but the seat tube one sure looks custom for Zieleman.

Anyway, please do post back with what you eventually find about your frame. You will certainly get a definite answer; any builder who did that kind of pantographing has to be known.

terrors

Thanks Al, Yes I will definetly post any info and I believe as you do that it is a known panto' somewhere. The rainbow coloured band it on lots of things theoretically it should only be on clothing or equipment whose riders or company equipment have been world champions. Here is a link to a bit info about it:

https://inrng.com/2011/06/rainbow-jersey-uci-trademark/