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98 Bianchi Trofeo - Ballpark vaule in Minneapolis?

Old 12-14-11, 03:15 PM
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98 Bianchi Trofeo - Ballpark vaule in Minneapolis?

I bought this set up for commuting, but it does still have the original HStem and Saddle/Seatpost so it can be set back to orig config. I apologize for the small and old picture, but I figured some reference is better than nothing.

As far as I can tell, everything it's a 53 cm frame and components are stock with these exceptions:
-New Head Stem (see above)
-Different Seat Post (see above)
-Newer gel saddle(see above)
-White HB wraps
-new tires
-Added rack, bell, comp,etc

Major Components are Campy Avanti (FD, RD, Shifters, etc.)
I'm guessing it has about 3000 miles on it, 2400+ of those are mine.
I've kept it well maintained since I picked it up 3 years ago.

Here's the dilema: I killed the RD late last fall and it needs replacing.
I not sure if I should invest the cash into hunting down original Avanti.

So my questions are:
What's the ballpark value of the bike, current state vs fixed?
And ultimately, am I better off selling it and letting someone else fix the RD?

Thanks for the responses!
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As is = eliminates > 90% of the potential buyers out there. People looking for projects (like me), have no problem buying bikes with issues, but expect a hefty discount. Even something as basic as flat tires = discount (OK, not so hefty, but still a discount).


I usually avoid modern bikes. But when I pick them up, they typically have serious issues (shifter malfunction, derailleur issues, that kind of stuff). This knocks the value down to half or even one third of what they would sell in good, ready to ride condition.

The number of buyers out there for projects is relatively small, and uniformly cheap. And when a bike is not functioning properly, I personally base on my offer on a worst case scenario: what if I have to replace the shifter, what if there are other unseen issues, and so on. I have gotten too many surprises over the years.

I also always assume when someone tells me that a non-functioning item they are selling just needs a simple repair, unless I can verify it, I assume they are wrong. In the back of my mind is the thought: "if it is such a simple repair, why didn't they fix it or have it fixed?"

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Thanks for the quick and honest reply.

In this case, it's not whether or not it's an easy repair, it's about the cost of the repair negating my return if I choose to sell it.
I'm not trying to be snarky: I've heard mechanics tell how customer X would've been better off parting out the bike instead of restoring stock (sometimes crappy) components.

Perhaps I should've asked if the value of the r2r bike is significantly higher than the parts.
Or how much a non-stock RD would affect the value of the bike.

Any other thoughts?
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How tall are you? The bike as it sits looks like it is too small for you and you are making it "fit".

Not worth going with original brand RD in my opinion. I have a red Trofeo and the frameset is very nice, but it is far from collectible.

The bike with a functioning RD (I'd buy one used on CL or at a bicycle cooperative) is probably worth a couple hundred.
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TD,

Thanks for the opinion and giving a baseline number.

Anyone else out there have an idea of value?
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Perhaps I should've asked if the value of the r2r bike is significantly higher than the parts.
Or how much a non-stock RD would affect the value of the bike.

Any other thoughts?
On part outs, its usually about high end parts. Your bike does not have high end parts. The Trofeo was close to their entry level racing bike from that era (model below it had DT shifters). Parting out also means totally disassembling the bike, part by part, polishing and cleaning each individual part, and then taking pictures, writing ads, and posting them on ebay. And then when you sell all of that stuff, you will have to pack each item very carefully, drive to the post office, wait in line, and send everything off to its new home. It would be quite a bit easier IMHO to just fix/replace that derailleur.

Realize what ever you get for this bike, in its current state, parted out, or repaired, will depend greatly on your ability to properly present and market the bike. The variance in bike values is huge.

Whenever I look at a bike that needs work, and the seller tells me: "Its an easy fix." The first thing that goes through my mind is: "Well, if its such an easy fix, why didn't they fix it?" and the second thing is: "I wonder what else is broken?" Kind of like buying a car that doesn't run.

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+1 to everything above. Not worth parting this one out IMO.

Fully functioning this bike is probably worth about $250-$300, especially if you include all the original parts. This assumes you post good full sized pictures in the ad, way bigger and more detailed than the grainy one in the OP.

I too will not buy a non-functioning bike unless I can get it at a huge discount. My first thought is, what else is wrong with it? I'd definitely suggest getting a new RD.

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Jake is right. $200-$300 depending on condition, towards $300 ready to ride.
I've paid $750 for a pair of mint ones, one with no miles and triple Campy.

Parted out, figure below, +/- 10%

On the part-out, package them in clusters:
FD/RD/Shifters/Calipers $80-$120
Wheels & cassette $100
Saddle $20
Bar & Stem $30
Frame and seatpost $65-$100
Crankset/BB $40

While it all depends on condition, 8-sp Ergos are nothing to sneeze at, neither are Miche wheels.
Some have Mirage ergos in lieu of the Avanti Ergos.
If you're missing a part, either fill it in or allow for it. An 8-sp Mirage or Avanti RD should be $20-$35.
The Avanti is lighter. 4Rings6Stars had some Avanti parts.

Frankly, I'd keep the group. It's an excellent commuter group.

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Thanks for the comments, all. I'll make an effort to hunt down the Avanti RD and might even keep the bike around as a backup/trainer.
Thanks again!
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