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Old 07-06-12, 01:01 PM
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Take it to a bike shop for a written estimate.
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Unfortunately this bike was my only transportation. So I don't have a car to bring it to a shop. Main reason I am posting on here. I can try to get a friend to ride me but it probably won't be until late next week.
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Adjuster is going to want a "professional" appraisal, not something from a bunch of internet yahoos, even if we buy/sell/trade the stuff.

OTOH, it is not difficult to have a $1000+ replacement cost, and it is unlikely such an appraisal will merit question. Heck, a grand won't even buy a complete Surly Pacer new, although, if carefully applied, you can certainly end up with something nice, used.

However, looking at your photos, I see "chicken levers", stem mount shifters, and a rust stained, tubular steel seatpost, all hallmarks of a low to mid-level bike, at best.

I have a similar quality bike, from a much better know brand (Raleigh), and in almost NOS condition. I'm going to post soon on the local Craigslist for $100. Honestly, it will likely move quickly at that price, but even on the best day, I don't see it as more than a $200 bike. Sorry.
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Here ya go, same color too! Only $60 + shipping of course.

https://clarksville.craigslist.org/bik/3051136863.html

Here are some others

https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/3053390749.html

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/bik/2991577707.html

https://spokane.craigslist.org/bik/3053247702.html

PS: Glad to hear your spouse is fine. Hope the adjuster doesn't work you over too hard haggling about $150 bike.
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$50 bike, $75 max.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
$50 bike, $75 max.
This one isn't a BCA, it's a 12 SIS. Much different then any similar I have seen. I could sell this bike on craigslist for $200+ no problem. Just as nice or nicer the most treks I have seen sell for $350+ on CL.

Thanks for the help guys. Although I'm not sure if this may be a special model or something, 12 sis. I have a raleigh as well. It's a piece of junk compared to the azzuri. My similar raleigh weighs about twice as much. The azzuri I have is comparable to a trek in quality and weight. I guess I'll just have to see what happens.

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BCAmerica was the make, Azzuri is the model, and 12 SIS refers to a feature of the Shimano derailleur, now incorporated in all derailleurs, including the $15 models. SIS = Shimano Index Shifting. 12 refers to the 2 chainwheels up front by 6 in the rear stack. Prior to SIS or click shifting, it was all cable and spring and friction shifting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifter_(bicycle_part)
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Geeze, I kinda feel bad for this guy. He thinks his BCA is Italian, and is worth $800+.

Sorry man. It's a cheap bike. I hope you didn't pay a lot for it.
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Originally Posted by inaliz
This one isn't a BCA, it's a 12 SIS. Much different then any similar I have seen. I could sell this bike on craigslist for $200+ no problem. Just as nice or nicer the most treks I have seen sell for $350+ on CL.

Thanks for the help guys. Although I'm not sure if this may be a special model or something, 12 sis. I have a raleigh as well. It's a piece of junk compared to the azzuri. My similar raleigh weighs about twice as much. The azzuri I have is comparable to a trek in quality and weight. I guess I'll just have to see what happens.
The people who are telling you what the bike is worth, know what they are talking about. The bike isn't worth much. Your best bet is to have the shop write up an estimate for a replacement bike so at least you get a new bike that will provide basic transportation.
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Is that a tange sticker on the seat tube? You should see if it is tange 1, 2, 3, ,4 etc and measure the dimensions and find a vintage frame that fits those dimensions and tubing type and get some parts together and have a bike shop build it up. There are many old frames that members here would be willing to sell you for a fair price, most all are probably better than the one you have. Also, you should probably talk to a lawyer or 2 and then decide to do what you feel is ethically, morally, and legally correct to receive compensation for damages. Try to remember that minor injuries are not always minor a month or a year later.
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Originally Posted by inaliz
This one isn't a BCA, it's a 12 SIS. Much different then any similar I have seen. I could sell this bike on craigslist for $200+ no problem. Just as nice or nicer the most treks I have seen sell for $350+ on CL.

Thanks for the help guys. Although I'm not sure if this may be a special model or something, 12 sis. I have a raleigh as well. It's a piece of junk compared to the azzuri. My similar raleigh weighs about twice as much. The azzuri I have is comparable to a trek in quality and weight. I guess I'll just have to see what happens.
No. Not unless you're in an overheated market. A better model would have an intergrated derailleur hanger, amoung other features. Plus, the Trek name is known. I don't think your bike is quite the level of even a lower level vintage trek model like the 410/412.

I do not doubt it was a nice rider. But 800 can buy you a high end Campy equipped Italian. Seriously. I'm sorry about the bike, however. Market value and personal value are two seperate things.

Plus a big one to getting a written estimate for replacement from a reputable shop. I do not doubt it will be higher than the quotes we have given you. But they are very honest and on target approximations of the sale value of your bike. And the adjuster will likely respect a shop quote more. It will also in this case likely be higher.
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Originally Posted by inaliz
This one isn't a BCA, it's a 12 SIS. Much different then any similar I have seen. I could sell this bike on craigslist for $200+ no problem. Just as nice or nicer the most treks I have seen sell for $350+ on CL.
No, sorry. This is absolutely a low-end bike. Vintage Treks didn't come with steel seatposts, adapter claw rear derailers, or cheap swaged (steel?) cranksets. SIS 12-speed indexed shifting puts this model in the later 1980s.

In good working condition, $50-75.
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Rare. . . sigh.

This thread https://<a href="https://www.bikeforum...of-America</a> says Tange 5.

The Australian company has two "r"s anyway

Did we scare the OP away?
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect
Geeze, I kinda feel bad for this guy. He thinks his BCA is Italian, and is worth $800+.

Sorry man. It's a cheap bike. I hope you didn't pay a lot for it.
No I didn't think it's Italian. I googled Azzuri and Azzurri is the only thing that popped up, was an Australian company. So I thought that was the brand, pretty simple misconception IMO. I got the bike for a steal, $15. I am constantly flipping bikes and learning how to fix and rebuild them.

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I could help you though if you want.

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Rare. . . sigh.

This thread https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ion-of-America says Tange 5.

The Australian company has two "r"s anyway

Did we scare the OP away?
What are you sighing about? This forum is to help people appraise bikes. Not for self fart smellers to feel high and mighty about their bicycle knowledge. Yes, I am ignorant about bicycles. Yes, I did not know this bike was a BCA. It's a very similar name and an easy mistake to someone who knows little about bike makes and models.

The bike is very nice compared to every similar bike I have had. Way better than schwinns, raleighs and other similar models. Maybe it goes for $50-75 wherever some people are but in Minneapolis a bike like this can go for $200 easily. Even crappy bikes go for $100-150 on CL and in shops.

Much thanks to all the people who were helpful. I now know what the bike is worth and we are getting it taken care of with the insurance company.

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What are you sighing about?
Hard to find ≠ Rare, but it seems you already know this, or should have if you are "constantly flipping bikes".
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I'm not sure why you asked the value if you knew it was a $200 bike? It is a $15 bike out here in the sticks where treks sell for less than $100.
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It's not very nice to be rude to people volunteering their time for your assistance just because you don't like the news. I am being literal here - I would not take this piece of crap for free and I'd advise your insurance company to charge you for disposing of it. What a complete turd - if this is nicer than the other bikes you've touched you either have no ability to judge quality, or you have never seen a bicycle outside of a Target. That thing is hideous...just an utter peice of junk.

The only way that sells for $200 is if you line the TT with drugs.

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Originally Posted by inaliz
Not for self fart smellers to feel high and mighty about their bicycle knowledge.
Excellent. Welcome to the forum.
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OP, people might ask 200$ for a bike like yours. I doubt they get it. Even in a hot market. Asking price and market price are not the same thing. I can ask 500$ for a Huffy Aerowind. It is worth 50$. I will not get that extra zero, unless a mentally deficient heir to a major fortune just decides they must have it.

One piece of advice that appears to not be sinking in is to take it to an LBS and get a written replacement value on it. It will likely be higher than the prices we are quoting here, because the LBS will likely estimate replacement with a comparable new bike (in this case, 300$) as opposed to the actual market price of your bike (50-100$). Not only that, the insurer will take the LBS quote over ours, even though the LBS probably has very limited knowledge of the used bike market. There is no "blue book" for used bikes.

This works both ways. Although you can get a higher estimate for your bike than it deserves; I would probably get a low estimate if one of my real rarities were to be wrecked.

And now I am off to sniff my ever rosy farts.
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Not for self fart smellers to feel high and mighty about their bicycle knowledge.
Brilliant!
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If you want another BCA, this one looks very clean, meaning low miles
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https://newjersey.craigslist.org/bik/3108365299.html

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Originally Posted by oddjob2
If you want another BCA, this one looks very clean, meaning low miles:

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/bik/3135744887.html
Great tip find Oddjob this is a great buy for the price. As both a former owner and seller of RBCA bikes I can say they are some of the best value wise.
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Originally Posted by bent-not-broken
I'm not sure why you asked the value if you knew it was a $200 bike? It is a $15 bike out here in the sticks where treks sell for less than $100.
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Not sure why you are even posting after it has been taken care of. None of what you say even makes sense regarding my original post.

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It's not very nice to be rude to people volunteering their time for your assistance just because you don't like the news. I am being literal here - I would not take this piece of crap for free and I'd advise your insurance company to charge you for disposing of it. What a complete turd - if this is nicer than the other bikes you've touched you either have no ability to judge quality, or you have never seen a bicycle outside of a Target. That thing is hideous...just an utter peice of junk.

The only way that sells for $200 is if you line the TT with drugs.
I think you may have a problem somewhere between when you read things and how your brain deciphers what you read. Some form of disorder maybe(not even kidding, or trying to insult you)? Or do you just like to stumble into threads already over and not read them properly? Or is it that - you have so much time on your hands - that you troll bicycle appraisal forums? I only defended myself against people who were insulting me for no reason - like yourself. Thanks for chiming in with your worthless post. Your insults are sad even, a ten year old child would come up with something better then that. Outside of target? Really? A turd, man you make me laugh but then I feel bad for you.

Then the fact you made this post far after the post was over is even worse. You are a true internet gem. Thank you for blessing me with your knowledge. Sorry I can't call you a turd back, but even a turd has some form of worth so it doesn't suite you in this case.

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OP, people might ask 200$ for a bike like yours. I doubt they get it. Even in a hot market. Asking price and market price are not the same thing. I can ask 500$ for a Huffy Aerowind. It is worth 50$. I will not get that extra zero, unless a mentally deficient heir to a major fortune just decides they must have it.

One piece of advice that appears to not be sinking in is to take it to an LBS and get a written replacement value on it. It will likely be higher than the prices we are quoting here, because the LBS will likely estimate replacement with a comparable new bike (in this case, 300$) as opposed to the actual market price of your bike (50-100$). Not only that, the insurer will take the LBS quote over ours, even though the LBS probably has very limited knowledge of the used bike market. There is no "blue book" for used bikes.

This works both ways. Although you can get a higher estimate for your bike than it deserves; I would probably get a low estimate if one of my real rarities were to be wrecked.

And now I am off to sniff my ever rosy farts.

How has the advice of taking it to a bike shop not sank in? Is there any evidence from anywhere that would state that? I'm pretty sure it was obvious when I said that I didn't have transport to take it to one and that I had already thought of that. This is why I came here lol. It worked pretty great, some people in ths post helped me a ton. I just find the troll posts very sad and amusing at the same time.

I never said you are a self fart smeller. That was directed toward the person I quoted directly above my statement. I found your original post to be quite informative and fine actually.

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