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De Bernardi (Italian) 56 cm lugged frame with Campy Chorus 9-speed groupo

Old 08-07-12, 06:10 PM
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De Bernardi (Italian) 56 cm lugged frame with Campy Chorus 9-speed groupo

Hey all,

I am just getting into road biking, with a buddy touting the merits of steel vs aluminum, etc. I am looking to buy a steel bike, something that is nice, but not the fanciest, nicest thing in the world. I wanna go use, as it seems like there is a lot of good stuff out there, and if I do not end up liking the road, I can resell my bike and not be out a lot.

I came across this bike, and I wanted to get y'all's take it it's value. I would of course do a test ride, as well as bring along my resident expert/friend for the purchase. Seems like a nice ride, unique, and something that I could upgrade various components over time if needed.

The seller had the bike tuned up about a year ago, and also put on a new front fork and the DT Swiss'. Here is the language from some of our conversation, as well as some pictures.

Could I get y'all's thoughts? Thanks in advanace!
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The other is a De Bernardi (Italian) 56 cm lugged frame with Campy Chorus 9-speed groupo

1992 model all Columbus SL tube, and vintage Cinelli parts. . Wheels are DT Swiss 465ís.

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It's hard to tell much from those pictures. Did the seller say why they put on a new fork? A new fork sometimes means the bike was crashed and the original fork was bent. Ask why it has a new fork and if they still have the original fork.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
It's hard to tell much from those pictures. Did the seller say why they put on a new fork? A new fork sometimes means the bike was crashed and the original fork was bent. Ask why it has a new fork and if they still have the original fork.
He didn't mention why he got the new fork. Said he upgraded the original fork, bars, and wheels at the same time (about a year ago). I will ask. He did mention that he has the original handlebars, stem, headset and saddle, but didn't mention the fork. He also mentioned the shop where the work was done, and it has good reputation around here.

Thanks so much for the help!
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It looks like the original threaded steel fork was swapped for a carbon threadless one. It would be cool if he still has the steel fork - it's always nice to have both.
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Originally Posted by Der_Kruscher View Post
It looks like the original threaded steel fork was swapped for a carbon threadless one. It would be cool if he still has the steel fork - it's always nice to have both.
Yeh, got back with me, he has both forks, so I assume it wasn't wrecked, but I will look over it well just in case.
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Oh, he asked 950, thoughts on a fair price?
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$950 is way way too much. Pretty much a $400 to $500 bike.
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With better photos and a good description, I think the seller could get $900 for that bike. So, offer him $750

It is definitely a great bike, Chorus is an excellent group and I would guesstimate that the wheels alone are worth $400, assuming those are Chorus hubs.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
With better photos and a good description, I think the seller could get $900 for that bike. So, offer him $750

It is definitely a great bike, Chorus is an excellent group and I would guesstimate that the wheels alone are worth $400, assuming those are Chorus hubs.
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