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price for a dura ace ax road bike?

Old 10-06-12, 09:10 AM
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price for a dura ace ax road bike?

I saw this bike on craigslist and from the horrible pictures it looks very clean and is in good condition. But, what would you expect to pay for a bike like this? Would it be a pretty good commuter bike? Also, is this bike a carbon?
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Old 10-06-12, 09:24 AM
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Without photos, difficult to give advice!
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Old 10-06-12, 09:27 AM
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oh, sorry.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3309449336.html

here is posting
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Old 10-06-12, 09:37 AM
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I would pass on this without better info. The fact that the seller doesn't mention the brand or frame type just seems like something is a little off to me.
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Old 10-06-12, 09:41 AM
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oh i thought dura ace was the brand of the bike haha. shows how little I know.
after some research though it seems the dura ace sets are nice quality bike parts?
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Old 10-06-12, 10:01 AM
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It's a Univega. The AX parts are interesting and not very common, but they didn't work very well either, no comparison to later Dura Ace groups. The price is not unreasonable if it's ready to ride.
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
It's a Univega. The AX parts are interesting and not very common, but they didn't work very well either, no comparison to later Dura Ace groups. The price is not unreasonable if it's ready to ride.
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Maybe if you could get it for $225-ish and it's in good condition.

I believe the AX cranks used the weird oversized pedal threading:

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Maybe if you could get it for $225-ish and it's in good condition.

I believe the AX cranks used the weird oversized pedal threading:

+1 I didn't even think of the fact that AX series have a lot of not standard stuff which does hold the value down quite a bit. I for one am not a fan of the top mounted DT shifters with autotrim.
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From what I have seen of the Nashville market, I would consider this one to be a good deal, if it is ready to ride. The bottom for decent vintage road bikes in Nashville seems to be around $225. For not much more, you are getting something pretty high up the food chain. Those parts normally are attached to a pretty good frame. Paint looks good too.

No, this bike is not carbon. If you want carbon, raise the budget by quite a bit, and look for a more modern bike (newer).

DA AX parts actually sell pretty well despite being quirky.
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Looks like Miyata manufactured Univega Super Strada. Red Tange Champion tubing decal, that's equivalent to Tange #1. The Dura Ace AX is oddball stuff, but it does very well on Ebay. The hidden bolt stem alone goes for up to a $100. Hard to tell for sure from the pictures, but it looks to be in good condition. I think that's a a very fair price for that bike.
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Old 10-06-12, 01:07 PM
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that's a great deal. jump on it because the brake calipers alone sell for more than the bike
AX is the aero version of Dura Ace way back when...
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Old 10-06-12, 01:59 PM
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that's a great deal. jump on it because the brake calipers alone sell for more than the bike
AX is the aero version of Dura Ace way back when...
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Grab this deal before someone else does. Not sure what everyone else is thinking, but how many full DA bikes do you find for under $300? This one looks in pretty good shape too.

Sure the AX was odd but it still sells. I've never used it but it has a lot of neat features and I'd jump on that bike for $280. It would have been top of the line back in the early 80s.
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Old 10-06-12, 02:56 PM
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+1, I'd jump on this too. Dura-Ace AX was unconventional but worked well. The frame is almost certainly fabricated by Miyata, who were arguably the best of the mass volume manufacturers of this era (1981-1985).
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Old 10-06-12, 03:51 PM
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I can't believe that it's still listed. In Chicago, it would've been gone in an hour. I'd buy it in a heartbeat just to see what the AX is like...
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This bike has been on CL several weeks. OP, there is a nice looking Bridgestone RB2 on Nashville CL. Being sold by RBs in Cool Springs area. That would be a good rider.
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Craigs List can be weird sometimes. Two of my better pics off C/L sat on there for multiple days, one for close to two weeks. While there are typically some serious flippers in just about every market, a lot of them just scoop up the really cheap stuff, do the basic DKO, and resell. So sometimes the higher end gets overlooked.

This does not mean the bike isn't a good deal. Its just that someone has not recognized it as a deal. Sooner or later, someone will, and they will scoop up the bike. If I was closer, I would be doing it myself.


A savvy buyer who just wanted to make some $$ could probably pay that seller his full price ($280) and then part out the bike, and get $500 plus for the parts and frameset, maybe more.

The Bridgestone is a nice bike, but typical IMHO for Bridgestone, it is under-equipped with Exage 400 components, which are no match, not close, to the DA bits.
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If someone wants to part it our- get it now. I sold some pieces of the AX group recently. The brake calipers are a hot item. $150. Cranks=$50+. RD= decent $. If you have a complete group, clean it up and take great photos. Put it on the bay and do well.

Oh, and I had one e mail asking if I would sell the just the adapters for the pedals. I didn't as it would have left the cranks for someone else to find the adapters. I guess you don't run across the adapters by themselves too often.

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+1 on the value of the AX calipers. Couldn't verifty that it had the aero version in any of the pics though...
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I know I am late to the party here but I am with ThinkTubes on this offer $200-225 ands see if the seller bites. If that was near me and my size I would check it out simply because having the AX would be unique. Unfortunately your stuck with those pedals though.
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Don't think those are Dura Ace AX calipers.
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Calipers look like Dia Compe to me, but the other DA parts have enough value to cover the asking price.
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The AX pedal system -- which allows your foot to occupy the rotation point instead of orbiting around the pedal spindle -- spins with a beautiful, smooth feeling.

Dura-Ace AX pedals are not only valuable but more importantly they are sweet to ride. Mine have been buttery-smooth and trouble-free for several years now.

They also lower the entire center of gravity of the rider by about 1.7cm. Might not sound important but this is quite significant on descents.

There are other purported benefits of the system in terms of muscular effort/strain/fatigue due to reduced "stack height" etc but I take no position on that personally (I'll let other internet geniuses rattle their heads off arguing that issue it if they want to.)

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Okay after reading all of this I decided to call the guy up and he still had the bike so I went over there and bought it. The bike is just slightly too big for me, when I stand over it I can place both my feet on the ground but it is slightly uncomfortable to do so.

The bike seems very clean and nice with very few scratches on it, seemed like it was stored inside for most of its life The previous owner had changed out the handle bars and head stem, but he gave me the originals along with the original old rawhide looking seat. I cannot really tell what the brakes are besides that they say GC on them with that A or D symbol in front of it. I paid 280 for it all, I didn't even bother to offer him less even though I probably should have.

So, this is my second road bike. My first one I bought 2 days ago which is an old zebrakenko that I have almost fully taken apart. I am waiting for the specialized tools that I need to get the hubs off and the crankshaft off that bike.

I am new to this and don't know a whole lot about how everything works. Can you guys tell me anything more about the bike? What should I take a picture of to upload here for you guys to analyze it further?

Thanks again for all of the advice and help.
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picture of the brakes- if they are DA AX, they will be roller cam center pull and say AX on the side... it's been so long but GC maybe? Or it could be Gran Compe brakes

and any other parts you have a question on.
btw, those AX pedals are a really unique design. Pre-clipless days but as drakonchik states, one that is superior biomechanically in many ways not achieved to this day.
anyway, check everything over with a test ride and adjust.

Congrats! a real find.
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