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Old 10-12-12, 09:57 PM
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Help identifying mystery frame

This has been hanging in my garage for the last 10 years. I've always wondered what it is. It has Campagnolo drop-outs and a Cinelli bottom bracket shell, no forks. I've tried looking around online but never found anything that matches, the closest I found was a Moser. Any comments or info would be appreciated.
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Old 10-13-12, 01:40 AM
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Somewhat nice looking late 70's frame most likely Italian mid level. In its current condition rusty no paint or identifing marks, no fork, no headset and no bottom brackett . Very little if any value just a interesting piece of metal to a hardcore c&v guy or fixie converision idiot maybe $30-40. For the most part this is just a nice looking peice of metal.
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I have a Jane Doe of my own right now, but this looks like a nicely built frame. Is it setup for recessed brakes? With the internal brake routing and under BB cable guides I think more mid '80 and onward. But that is the nice thing about bikes very little is ever certain.

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+1, the presence of a front derailleur hanger, dual bottle bosses, cast bridges, internal brake cable routing and short, non-Portacatena droputs suggest no earlier than mid-1980s. The lack of embossing on stay caps and shell suggest a small, cottage industry brand. Have you verified the BB thread standard, seat tube size and checked inside the BB end of the seat and down tubes for the presence of helical ridges?
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This looks 80s to me due to the cable guides on the bottom of the BB shell. Also looks just like two of my unidentified frames what I call "garage made frames". No serial numbers and plain looking lugs on mine. Maybe this was inspired by Moser...who knows...
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Whatever it is, don't paint it, that patina is awesome.
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If you look at the dropout, you notice the axle and QR was slammed all the way back. So far back that, maybe, set screws were never present. Two things: (1) if the rear wheel is straight when you don't use set screws, that would indicate a competent or better build. (If it's not straight, you had a rider who didn't care the rear end was not tracking). (2) If, big if, there were never set screws, then maybe the set screw holes were never chased, and maybe some original paint is inside the holes.

How you could access it to see it, I don't know. Got a friend at CSI?
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+1 confirmation on BB threading and seat post size might help a little. Definitely mid-1980s or later.

It's a nice frame and it's too bad it's had such a rough life. Not worth much now with no fork and no paint..
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Not much evidence to go on, but I would hazard a guess that it is an A-Frame from the front suspension of a Cab-Over-Engine Dodge car hauler, circa 1952-53. [
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Originally Posted by FastJake
It's a nice frame and it's too bad it's had such a rough life. Not worth much now with no fork and no paint..
I'll take it- I think it's purdy. OP: I'm serious about this.
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