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Peugeot "fibre de carbone" vitus(?) with 105

Old 03-06-13, 11:14 AM
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Peugeot "fibre de carbone" vitus(?) with 105

someone asked me about one of these. looks like a complete (6 speed?...uniglide?) Shimano 105 group, fairly clean, been on a trainer for the last many years, don't know the condition of the bonds, etc. Anyone know what these are generally worth?



I'm guessing these didn't all age too well, which may not speak well for any value & although a complete group that's clean is nice, Shimano 105 isn't exactly something to get really excited about either. And, just for my edification, I suppose these did not have bottle cage bosses in the CF tubes...
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That's a Peugeot PY10FC and it looks gorgeous in that pic!
What damaged a good number of early CF bikes from many different manufacturers was when the aluminum lugs reacting with the Carbon fiber when they got wet because of electrolysis between the dissimilar materials. Later CF bikes were built with isolating materials that kept the two from contacting each other, so that was not much of a problem anymore by the 90's. I believe that the earliest Vitus made Peugeot PY10FC's (Essentially a Vitus Carbone 3) might not have these isolating materials in their joints, so they would be susceptible to corrosive damage if the owner puts them away wet after rainy rides. Just take a look at the joints very closely on the bike to see if you can spot dark tendril like stains coming out of the joints and on to the aluminum lug edges, If you do, there is a possibility that what you are seeing is corrosion and you should reconsider buying the bike. Loose joints will also be easy to spot as there will be a line on the CF tube where the finish seems to stop and you will see the raw CF usually visible right at the joint. That means the joints have separated and slightly pulled apart already.
It was the infancy of the CF era of bikes and many riders and manufacturers did not really know the proper care needed for CF bikes which is much different from steel or aluminum bikes. If you are lucky, the previous owner was mostly a dry weather biker and the joints will be OK.
You do have to be especially careful when buying any bike that spent a long time on trainers as they usually get exposed to a lot of very corrosive sweat from a training rider as there is no wind to evaporate the sweat on the rider before it falls on to the bike. Check especially the top tube lugs at the seat cluster and the head tube connection and the bottom bracket joints. Sweat usually end up on these areas andeat at any metal they come in contact with. The aluminum lugs on the Peugeot PY10FCs and the Vitus Carbones are especially vunerable as I believe that they were not clear anodized.

Otherwise, if the Peugoet PY10FC is in good condition, those bikes are very sought after by Peugeot race bike fans and can fetch high prices. The example you are describing with Shimano 105 group on it, although good stuff is not considered top line components as many PY10FC usually have, that is usually is full Mavic SSC, Stonglight/Spidel, Shimano DA7400 and Campy Super Record. So it should sell for a bit less than the usual.
Prices? they are all over the place for that bike. I've seen them sell in the last few years up to around $1200 for mint examples with top of the line components and to all sorts of prices below that, depending on condition, and for some reason lots of these PY10FC's are so beat up...so watch out!.....condition, condition, condition!
Tell us at the C&V forum if you do get it and post lots of pics to show us your bike!
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If the frame is in good condition, buy it for that alone. These frames sell easily, prices are all over the place as they aren't common, but it should certainly fetch $250 and could go more - if marketed well on eBay with good feedback etc. The complete bikes are usually wearing very nice components (Campy, Mavic, Spidel) making their prices not too relevant to the 105-clad example you showed, but with that caveat I've seen them go for $700 and higher. If you want a low hassle sale, I suspect it would sell on the For Sale C&V section pretty easily.
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