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Old 03-22-13, 12:57 PM
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Thoughts on these Campagnolo tools, etc.

Hey all -

So I'm getting ready to purchase a few things from a Craigslist seller, who's giving me a great deal. She just sent over the following pictures of some tools she's looking to unload, too. I actually need a lot of this stuff, just not necessarily in Campy form, but I have no idea what to even offer to pay for such a collection. Any C&Ver advice would be warmly welcomed! And if you see anything in the photos *you* need, just let me know and maybe we can figure something out if I get the lot...

Thanks in advance!

https://i.imgur.com/LEY95n7.jpg
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Originally Posted by truckface View Post
Hey all -

So I'm getting ready to purchase a few things from a Craigslist seller, who's giving me a great deal. She just sent over the following pictures of some tools she's looking to unload, too. I actually need a lot of this stuff, just not necessarily in Campy form, but I have no idea what to even offer to pay for such a collection. Any C&Ver advice would be warmly welcomed! And if you see anything in the photos *you* need, just let me know and maybe we can figure something out if I get the lot...

Thanks in advance!

https://i.imgur.com/LEY95n7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2AhnWRR.jpg
Old Campy tools go very high on ebay; figure $40@ on anything with Campagnolo written on it. OTOH, if the seller doesn't want to part them out on ebay, $100 to $200 would be a fair offer.
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Just check completed auctions for 'Campagnolo tool'. What they are worth to a collector and what they are worth as tools can be very different.
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Just FYI. There's only one Campy tool in the second picture. That small, T handled wrench. The V.A.R. pin spanner tool is nice. As in the lock ring spanner above it. If you get the whole lot for , oh, a hundred bucks, it would be a good deal. Maybe a bit more.
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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
Just FYI. There's only one Campy tool in the second picture. That small, T handled wrench. The V.A.R. pin spanner tool is nice. As in the lock ring spanner above it. If you get the whole lot for , oh, a hundred bucks, it would be a good deal. Maybe a bit more.
Yeah, the fact that they aren't 100% Campy was my main reason for seeking advice. I knew I could count on you guys for some good n fast advice!

I'll post my final haul when/if it's complete. If all goes well it'll include a couple NOS panniers and saddles, too. I'm pretty excited.
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The non-Campy tools are VAR (brand) tools, which are arguably even better than Campy. That is quite a fine collection.
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The crude looking VAR lock ring tool is the best I've ever used.
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Originally Posted by truckface View Post

That is quite a collection. It is funny that tools are now collectible.
I remember hearing a '51 Chevy 3100 pickup could never be worth anything because it was a simple tool.
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If those tools are anywhere near the Bay Area, I'd happily "check them out for you" in advance.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
The crude looking VAR lock ring tool is the best I've ever used.
Indeed. I had those at a few bike shops I worked at. There is none better.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
If those tools are anywhere near the Bay Area, I'd happily "check them out for you" in advance.
Ha. Lucky for me they are *not* in the Bay Area. Seller accepted my offer, so the tools, two Avocet touring saddles, and two pairs of panniers will be getting picked up this weekend. Whoo!

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Ive been looking for a reasonably priced peanut butter wrench forever.
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I'd value the lot for over $200. I sold a VAR #13 pin tool for $70 at auction this year.
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Without even knowing what you paid, I'm sure you got a heck of a deal.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
The non-Campy tools are VAR (brand) tools, which are arguably even better than Campy....
IMO, they're definitely better. The plated finish on the Campagnolo tools isn't very durable. It's like the Campagnolo tools were made for personal use while the VAR tools were made for shop use. We had a Camapgnolo tool kit and a lot of the high use tools just didn't stand up. I ended up converting the shop to primarily VAR tools and all the mechanics were much happier.

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The crude looking VAR lock ring tool is the best I've ever used.
Yes, the VAR 16 lockring pliers are the best of the multi-purpose lockring tools, though they don't do well on lockrings with an odd number of notchs. It should be noted that the subject pair are missing the rubber grips.
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I'd value the lot for over $200. I sold a VAR #13 pin tool for $70 at auction this year.
It appears the OP's pin spanner is missing its pins. Fortunately, they are still available:

7. PINS, PAIR for VR-13, BP-01307-2 (Item #VR-BP013072) $12.95
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The VAR 16 lockring pliers are the best of the multi-purpose lockring tools, though they don't do well on lockrings with an odd number of notchs.
Nothing does well on lockrings with an odd number of notches. Once you get it off, replace it with one with an even number of notches.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Without even knowing what you paid, I'm sure you got a heck of a deal.
Yeah, I feel pretty great about it. $175 for everything, including two sets of NOS Eclipse panniers (w. adapter plates), a never used Avocet Touring saddle, and a lightly used WII saddle. I bet she'd have taken less, but I'm bad at lowballing people.

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$175 is insane. Put that stuff in a locked safe when you're not using it. OK, I'm kidding, but only a little.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Nothing does well on lockrings with an odd number of notches. Once you get it off, replace it with one with an even number of notches.
That's fine advice when you're working on a personal bicycle, but when you own or work in a shop it doesn't wash. The three prong spanners work fine on a triple notch lockring. They work as well as any other dedicated lockring spanner on the market, including Campagnolo's.
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