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old English? ladies bicycle Sturmey Archer AW-8

Old 05-28-13, 06:35 AM
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old English? ladies bicycle Sturmey Archer AW-8

Hi all

today I stumbled upon the following nice ladies' bike. But I can't make out it's make or model...

The head badge is painted and reads like "golden cross?". I can't make out the writing below the logo...
The sturmey archer three-speed hub reads "aw-8".. does this indicate a 1938 model?

any help about make, model, date etc. much appreciated..

happy riding!
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Old 05-28-13, 10:01 AM
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Hi Tom welcome to the forums. I would love a swoopy old step through with rod brakes cool find. Is it in the US or Europe somewhere? I suspect it is one of the Raleigh clones from the '50s/60s

I think AW-8 refers to the model and the year is clearly stamped but I am no Sturmey expert.




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Old 05-28-13, 02:50 PM
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Hi Bianchigirll

thanks for your quick reply and your warm welcome...

The bike is in Switzerland... bought it for ~30 USD today...lots of work to do to restore it and make it rideable ...

I will take some more pictures after I will have picked it up tomorrow.. maybe someone knows what kind of bike that is and what age it has.
There is absolutely no markage on the hub except for the AW-8 imprint. I somewhere read on the internet that it may be a 1938 hub, because they introduced the AW model around 1936 it only has one digit to indicate the year.

but am absolutely no expert... I don't know if that's correct or not.

Thanks for any hints
so long - greets from Switzerland
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Old 05-29-13, 08:31 AM
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Hi again

attached as promised some more pics of the bike. On the front rod brake, the name "Phillips" is written. But this is the only place....
I also noticed that there is a customs tag "1 /43" probably indicating that this bike has been imported to Switzerland in Jan 1943? Maybe another sign, that the hub indication AW-8 symbolises a hub built in 1938

hmmm, this is like playing Sherlock Holmes here

any help/suggestions/hints gratefully appreciated

happy riding

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Old 05-29-13, 08:41 PM
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I can't help much with identification concerns, however; the ride quality of the OPs roadster will prove impressive, in my opinion.

I have owned a couple of very similar 28" wheel bikes, both Raleigh Step Throughs, but of much later vintage than the OPs...



...and been thoroughly impressed with how nice they are to ride. Great for short hops, around town, or an afternoon on a nice secondary highway. I found mine to be one of the most comfortable bicycles I have ever ridden. And, to be perfectly honest, though I never thought I would say so, I really like the Step Through design. Anyway, my first Raleigh Tourist, a bike that is pretty similar to the OP's, both in appearance and ride quality.

Be interested in watching this one come together. Good luck with that nice find.
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Old 05-31-13, 10:00 AM
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Randy

thanks, ...nice bikes and pretty impressive website, too

I will post some updated pics once restored....Can't wait to ride that little baby...

Still trying to figure out the brand & age..
interesting enough, I found a marking "22mm" on the handle bar stem. hmmm metric measures (?!) indicating the diameter? --> pls see attach.


hints and tips very welcome

happy riding
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Old 05-31-13, 10:25 AM
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Yes, AW-8 means your hub was made in 1938. Dunlop stainless steel rims, very nice. Walton and Brown bottom bracket cups and Phillips brakes all suggest you have a non-Raleigh, because Raleigh made these parts in-house. Raleigh bottom bracket cups have 26 threads per inch, while 'standard' British cups have 24 tpi, so you can't interchange them.

But I count 36 spokes in your front wheel. Is it original (is the front rim labeled the same as the rear?). This is significant because English bikes, made for the domestic English market, had 32 spokes in the front wheel and 40 in the rear. Dunlop made 36h rims for export. Similarly, the English hub makers also made 36h hubs for export.

If you bought the bike to keep, and are not really concerned with its value, post it in the regular C&V forum. This forum, for valuations, gets a lot less attention.
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Hi rhm
thank you very much.

Yes, it has 36 spokes, on both the front and back wheel. and it is still original. I also found the word "Brampton" on the font hub.
OK, so it seems to be a an English non-Raleigh bike made for export. currently taking it apart.

now I can't open the handlebar stem but I need to raise the handle bar. does anybody know what kind of tool I do need to open this?

many thanks for any hints.
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