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Old 06-01-13, 01:14 AM
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Mysterious track frame

Hello.
I've recently bought this frame and can't find any information about it. I've contacted some people from KHVZ (ХВЗ) facility and they say it is not soviet although it has a Rekord head tube.

It also has a small oval EDA pressed at the bottom.
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Old 06-01-13, 06:55 AM
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Lugwork look no later than boom era. Have you gone through the elementary steps of determining the threading standard and seat post diameter?
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Those head lugs are new to me, I would associate the basic appearance with Italian, but the stay ends not.
As T-Mar suggested, confirm the threading and seat post diameter, BB shell width and on a lark the rear wheel spacing.
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The BB shell has a right-hand threading and is ~65 mm wide, seat post diameter is 27.2, rear wheel spacing - 120 mm.
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I'm assuming to you checked the threading on both sides? Right hand threading on the drive side would indicate French or Italian but the use a 65mm shell points towards Italian. The narrower bottom bracket shell, in conjunction with the 27.2mm post typical of PL tubing, suggest it is probably a pursuit frame. The Campagnolo track dropouts were not cataloged prior to 1960.
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If you're not looking for an appraisal, post this in the c&v forum, where it will get a lot more attention.
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Hello again. I've been recently contacted by previous owner of the frame. He told me it was some nameless track bike that got into an accident and the headtube was replaced. Originally it was loaded with Campy and made of Columbus tubes.
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Someone replaced the head tube and used those strange lugs? That is... strange.
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