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Is this Univega Gran Sprint worth $200 ?

Old 06-01-13, 11:11 AM
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Is this Univega Gran Sprint worth $200 ?

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/3840526530.html


Mid 1980's Univega Gran Sprint. Sweet little complete bike. 50cm top to top seat tube, 53 cm center to center top tube. Tange double butted Cro-Mo tubing, Cro-mo Stays, Mangalite fork. SR Crankset, Dia-Compe 400 brakes, Suntour 12 speed drive train including Cyclone derailleurs. Wheels spin nice and true, nice and smooth, good rubber.

I usually ride a 52cm. I can make this work with the 53cm top tube.
How are Univega Gran (Sprint, Rally, Record, Premio) regarded?
I would have bought already if it was in NYC.
So are the Miyata made frames worth the 8 hr round trip drive to the Boston suburbs?

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Old 06-01-13, 12:10 PM
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Yes it is worth it. Models changed frequently, I do not worry where a model ranked. Instead, I focus on condition, frame tubing, and component grade. All of those ppoint to a nicer bike. I am surprised it is not more $$.

And a lot of model names were marketing department gimmicks. I see an endless number of bikes with "touring" in the model name, that were not touring bikes. Ditto "Racing" Deluxe", "Special", "Grand", etc. And when they linked two or more of these together, like Ross's "Professional Grand Tour" model for example, total POS.

Heaviest bike I ever owned was a model "Light Weight".

8 hour round trip? Probably not. I would head 3 hours to Eastern PA or similar, or perhaps upstate NY. Going from one expensive market to another is not the way to maximize return on a drive.

I usually troll the lesser (cheaper) markets outside my area, and I will then drive there.

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Old 06-01-13, 12:22 PM
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Thanks wrk101 for the quick evaluation and the lesson in economics !
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I would agree this is a good bike and fair price but not a good enough bike or deal to justify and 8 hour trip. Price is only about $50 below market and similar Univega's are fairly common on the East coast so I couldn't see going to Boston to look at one. If your willing to take that kind of trip for a bike maybe you should looking for something a little less common in a cheaper market. You typical find the best deals on lesser known brand names in cheaper smaller markets.
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Do you have friends in Boston that can bring it to Brooklyn? I frequently rely on friends to help me snare bikes or I give the seller a deposit and tell him to hold it until I am literally driving by their home.
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Being willing and able to drive a distance is a huge advantage! Draw a circle from where you live, perhaps a three hour drive one way. Look for secondary or tertiary markets, ones like Scranton, PA. A lot fewer buyers chasing the nice stuff. You can probably find a half dozen or more small markets like that.

Sure, good bikes dont show up that often in those markets, but buyers don't either. Picked up my Tomasini that way last year. Sat on CL for two weeks. It was a great deal. But seller was remote, even from the CL he posted in.
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Thank you zukahn1 for the good advice.
I'm not a flipper so I really have to be more discriminating.
I should just focus on a steel 52cm Italian frame.
I've caught the N+1 bug as evidenced by this storage locker overflow from my basement !
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Old 06-01-13, 10:16 PM
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oddjob2 I actually worked in Nashua, NH for several years and was used to the drive back and forth to NY.
I still have friends in the area but I hesitate to call in a favor for what you guys deem to be a common Univega. Now if it was a Tommasini....

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Thank you wrk101.
Driving farther did get me better and cheaper selection than staying in the city.
I've driven 3 hrs to New London, CT to buy a $300 54cm Miyata 914 and the other way to Lancaster, PA for 2 1/2 hrs to get a $225 Miyata 914 that was my size 52cm.
I realize now that I have too many of the same type...and I'm not a collector.

The only Italian bike I have is a 98 Bianchi Veloce (Dedacciai Zero Uno w/ 9 spd Veloce) . Now, I am not an expert at evaluating bikes, but I wasn't impressed by the ride. Coming from all downtube shifters, I did like the Campy Ergos.
I've read all about the Italian racing mystique but it has been hard to find one.... at a reasonable price.

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Time to trade up in quality vs quantity.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Time to trade up in quality vs quantity.
For a while, I was really disciplined in this approach. One keeper came in, one had to go out. I focused on bikes that overlapped each other, and kept the one I liked the best. It was pretty easy when I was upgrading from basic bikes. Anything was an improvement!! Now its quite a bit harder. I do know which ones need to go, so its just a matter of moving them out. The other challenge as you get better bikes is that they are more work to sell. Its pretty easy moving a $200 bike. Getting full value out of a $800 to $1000 bike is a lot more effort around here.

I also did a pretty good job of letting go bikes that were the wrong size, either too big or too small.

Sounds like you got the driving for deals figured out. Again my advice is to focus on smaller markets. Much less competition, and a much better chance the deal will last long enough for you to make the drive. Even larger markets are OK for the higher end vintage stuff, if they are not red hot bike towns, as buyers for the better stuff are less common. I've gotten some great deals in Charlotte for example. But I would not go from one huge red hot market to another. High prices and strong competition.

Aim higher than that Univega, as you already have some great bikes.

Besides Italian, the Waterford Paramounts from the 1980s were very nice, in your size, they often had an SLX frameset (larger frames were SL as I recall). I have a 1985 or 1986 (I'd have to check it), Columbus SLX frameset, all Dura Ace 7400 drivetrain, very nice bike!

I'm also a big fan of Panasonic bikes. Their top of the line models were excellent, catalogs are on line to peruse.

Another strategy for you to consider is to focus on one brand and era. You can become a "SME" (subject matter expert) pretty quickly if you focus. So if you decided to focus on late 1980s Miyatas, you could probably find deals on high end ones if you are patient. Somehow I recently began to focus on 1992 Panasonic made Paramounts (talk about a narrow focus!!). So I have a series 5, a series 7, and recently I got my wife a series 70.

In your case, a Team Miyata would make a fantastic addition if you do not have one. Expensive? Sure. But maybe you sell off a few lower level bikes, and turn them into one outstanding bike.

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In your case, a Team Miyata would make a fantastic addition if you do not have one. Expensive? Sure. But maybe you sell off a few lower level bikes, and turn them into one outstanding bike.

Thrifty Bill,
Guess who's got a minty Team Miyata lying in NNJ? Probably too large though.
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