Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
Reload this Page >

ALPS bicycles: Are the collectors dictating prices?

Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

ALPS bicycles: Are the collectors dictating prices?

Old 06-19-13, 02:23 AM
  #1  
caintuck
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kanagawa Pref., Japan
Posts: 153

Bikes: Bridgestone MB 2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ALPS bicycles: Are the collectors dictating prices?

I know the ALPS company has closed shop and I understand the main builder of the frames (Hagiwara-san) has quite the reputation. I also know that "worth" is whatever someone is willing to pay. That said, a used ALPS camper/touring bike recently went for over 2K here at auction. And now there's an ALPS rando up for bid that went from a $100 starting bid to over $800 in no time, and I'm certain it will go higher. Just curious as to whether you experienced C&V folks think these prices are driven by collectors. And can anyone give me a ballpark figure on the suggested retail price for this bike (or a similar one):

https://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d144591309

I don't know what brand the RD and FD are. The rear spacing is 130 mm.

Last edited by caintuck; 06-19-13 at 04:30 AM.
caintuck is offline  
Old 06-19-13, 07:48 AM
  #2  
T-Mar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,639
Mentioned: 556 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3666 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,081 Times in 807 Posts
The front derailleur appears to Shimano 600 Ultegra. The rear is probaly the same. Given the 130mm spacing, that would put them 1992-1997.

It would be folly for me to make any suggestions regarding the Japanese market for these bicycles. You're much closer to it than me. However, it would seem that the vast majority of the vlaue would be in the frame. With the exception of the TA crankset there doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary in the components.
T-Mar is offline  
Old 06-20-13, 02:24 AM
  #3  
caintuck
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kanagawa Pref., Japan
Posts: 153

Bikes: Bridgestone MB 2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yes, it must be the frame(s) that Mr. Hagiwara built that are attracting the collectors $$$, seeing how he has retired and will not build any more frames. Hagiwara frames, judging from the prices his bikes are fetching, seem to have a lot of prestige here, though I only just heard of the guy while researching the linked-to bike. It's a funny market here. You can get a nice 54-cm Japan-built steel bike for $150 to 250. The Japan-built 56 sizes go for more and are a bit rare. The starting bids for vintage Italian bikes average around $1500, but nobody's buying. I've seen the same high-end Italian bikes at auction for more than a year.

Thanks for your input, as always. The following link may be of interest to folks who haven't already seen it:

The catalogs of Japanese vintage bicycle

Last edited by caintuck; 06-20-13 at 03:57 AM.
caintuck is offline  
Old 06-20-13, 07:52 AM
  #4  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 15,280
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1656 Post(s)
Liked 568 Times in 446 Posts
I know if a number of very high end Italian and American race bikes export to Japan for serious dollars, so my guess is the enthusiast market is very discerning.
repechage is offline  
Old 06-23-13, 02:13 AM
  #5  
caintuck
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kanagawa Pref., Japan
Posts: 153

Bikes: Bridgestone MB 2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Just to put a conclusion to this little thread: The white ALPS bike I linked to went for almost $1400, with two, maybe three, folks in a bidding war at the end. Geez, this poor Kentucky boy won't be winning an ALPS at auction in this market for sure.

Last edited by caintuck; 06-23-13 at 02:17 AM.
caintuck is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Obeast
Classic & Vintage
9
11-01-18 07:55 PM
Bike tinker man
Classic & Vintage
8
02-10-17 12:43 PM
uncle uncle
Classic & Vintage
66
01-22-17 06:58 PM
Inertianinja
Classic & Vintage
68
01-05-16 02:46 PM
f33dback
Bicycle Mechanics
23
05-15-13 01:10 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.