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Miyata 610, 615 or Trek Mountain Track 820?

Old 06-24-13, 01:06 PM
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Miyata 610, 615 or Trek Mountain Track 820?

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Hope the summer has been bringing good things to you all. Came across these bike's on CL. I read reviews here on the forum for the Miyata's. All good things. Don't know the year if the Trek. Googled the model and read some nice stuff as well. Any thoughts?

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/3887444363.html

https://longisland.craigslist.org/bik/3882836752.html

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/3886149652.html

The owner of the Trek is open to negotiations. Still waiting to hear back from the Miyata owners. On a side note, I bid on a Vintage MotoB. GT. The auction ended last night. It started at $99 + $90 s/h. Sold for $175. Here's a pic and info from it. Thanks for your help.

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Vintage Motobecane Grand Touring Bike Vitus 888 Tubing Huret Weinmann

You are Bidding on a classic French Motobecane "Grand Touring" sport touring/road bike.

Tall Frame (18 1/2" From center of top frame tube to center of sprocket).

Vitus 888 Frame.

This is a beautiful Bike metallic champagne/gray in color.

This is a 3X6 drive train with Stronglight triple crank-set.

Huret front and rear derailleurs with Huret shifters.

Anatomic Selle Italia suede saddle (some wear).

Weinmann concave rims (Believed to be).

Maillard Hubs.

Weinmann Front and Rear Brakes.

La Bonneville Iton 27190 France Handlebar,Motobecane Wrapped Handle bars.

This Bike appears to be in Good Mechanical and Cosmetic Condition,(tires are flat should be serviced and cleaned).
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This is the first time I've seen two people ask about the same bike on C/L, in this case the Miyata 610. I think it's been sold because the other party hasn't heard either.

The Moto Grand Touring at $262 with shipping is fully valued for a fixer upper. I bought one for $60 two months ago.

That Trek is not a Mountain Trek 820. It is a road bike with Weinmann Concave rims.

The Red Hook Miyata looks like it's been ridden hard. Even the teeth on the crank rings look worn.

Considering all the above bikes need work, at least new cables and a tune up, probably an overhaul too, you's best aim for $200 and be prepared to fork out $150-$200 for parts and service.
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The Trek is the best. The 610 is beat to crap, not worth it unless you have the time/tools/aptitude/pile of parts. All are huge size wise.

+1 All are going to take a full service, figure $150 plus. The Miyata 610 is just too beat to be worth this added expense.

I would not wait on the Miyatas. I would just head out and get that Trek. Even though it needs some work, its still a good price in a hot market, and with a negotiable seller, I would be going NOW.

The Trek is NOT a Mountain Track 820. If it was, I would pass on it too.

I would not waste a bunch of time researching the Trek! Grab now, study later.
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Old 06-24-13, 01:51 PM
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Thanks oddjob for the info. I was just reading the other thread (https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...s-or-a-schwinn) where the Miyata 615 was mentioned. I spoke to the owner of it a few minutes ago. He said $200 was doable. The owner of the Trek gave me the info on the model name. Where he got it from who knows? That's probably why I found no matching images after googling it. It was disappointing to lose out on the Moto. I should have saved more pics on it. The handlebars had nice engravings on them. If I'm not mistaken it was some sort of french technique. Was reading a little about it here on the forums a few days ago. I agree about the Red Hook Miyata. He even hints to that in the ad. So the 615 would be the best of the three huh? That's still a lot of money in parts and service. You mentioned that you bought a Moto GT a few months ago. Can you post a pic?
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Thanks wrk101. Words to live by, especially when considering CL deals. Do you think the Trek would be too big? I'm 5'11. For what it's worth I went through the wrenchscience.com fit system. Here's the summary. 50cm seems small for me. Is this correct?

WS Recommended Road Sizes
Frame Size center-to-center: 50 cm
Frame Size center-to-top: 52 cm
Overall Reach: 63.06 cm
Saddle Height: 68.41 cm
Handlebar Width: 46 cm



WS Recommended Mountain Sizes
Frame Size center-to-center: 16 in
Frame Size center-to-top: 16 in
Overall Reach: 63.06 cm
Saddle Height: 68.41 cm
Handlebar Width: 46 cm



Your Measurements
Height: 5.11 in
Sternum Notch: 50.00 in
Inseam Length: 30.50 in
Arm Length: 27.00 in
Shoulder Width: 19.00 in
Flexiblity: 3
Weight: 175.00 lbs
Foot Size: 7.50 USMens

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All look too big to me, just go and ride it. Sizing other people over the internet is futile. I am doubting your inseam measurement by the way. Google bicycle inseam, its quite a bit more than your pant inseam.

I've never seen anyone 5-11 sized for a 52cm frame. But it starts with accurate measurements.

You think your size is 52, so the bikes you linked to were 60, 63, and probably another 63. Think about it.

You are making the classic mistake we see on here everyday, you are shopping first. Shop later once you lock in your right size. Otherwise, you will either buy a bike that is the wrong size, or waste a lot of time and gas chasing bikes that are the wrong size.

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You can still see the moto here. I agree with WRK101, go for the Trek.

Below is my $60 Grand Touring. Those are not the OEM handlebars, but no matter as I am putting on Northroads style bars and a riser stem. The rear wheel had a crack in it, but I picked up an Austro-Daimler Superlight that has the Weinmann Concaves for $40. I can resell that frame and crankset for more than $40. I actually bought a 2nd blue Grand Touring about two weeks later, also for $60, no wheels.
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@oddjob2:Where did you score that bike for $60? Can I have directions?
@wrk101:I didn't use my pants inseam for the fit system. I followed their directions, and measured from the floor to the inside of my crotch. Which is what googling bicycle inseam says to do as well.
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This is some package deal.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/3868541157.html

What type of handlebar setup is that? Is it a fixed gear?
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@oddjob2:Where did you score that bike for $60? Can I have directions?
@wrk101:I didn't use my pants inseam for the fit system. I followed their directions, and measured from the floor to the inside of my crotch. Which is what googling bicycle inseam says to do as well.

I am not sure I understand the question, "Can I have directions?"

That Univega appears to be a lugless frame, TIG welded instead, though the photo is poor quality. The handlebars have been rotated up.
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@oddjob2:Where did you score that bike for $60? Can I have directions?
@wrk101:I didn't use my pants inseam for the fit system. I followed their directions, and measured from the floor to the inside of my crotch. Which is what googling bicycle inseam says to do as well.
With a book shoved up tight against hard stuff, 5-11 height and 30.5 inch bike inseam is extremely rarel.

Assuming your measurement is correct, why are you considering bikes that are much, much bigger?

Univega is not fixed gear, you can see the rear derailleur through the picture. Handlebars are rotated up DUI style. https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ped-handlebars

Finding deals on bikes can be a full time job. And if they appear on C/L, they do not last long enough to get an answer to: "hey is this one a good deal?" There are knowledgeable buyers that POUNCE on the great deals out there. And most of the great deals need a lot of work. Do you have the time/tools/aptitude/pile of parts to take on a project? If so, then projects can make great buys (but finding even fixer uppers is extremely competitive). Best deal I got on C/L in 2013, I answered the guy's listing within 5 minutes of his posting (at 1 PM), and was at his house picking up two bikes by 1:30. By then, he had several responses. Both bikes needed complete overhauls, but $75 for two good bikes was a deal for sure ($37.50 each). That ad was long gone from C/L before anyone working for a living was home from work.

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