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rcmorrow 07-05-13 10:38 AM

1985 Olmo Competition
 
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Hi all,

I have my Olmo Competition 51cm c-t-c Columbus SL from 1984/1985 that I used to race. It is in very good to excellent condition, built up with Campy Super Record (with the exceptions below)....also 1984/1985. Wheels are Mavic MA 40 clinchers, 36 spoke DT dbl butted spokes on Campy Record sm flange hubs.

The hubs, track pedals, and bottom bracket are all Campy Record with steel axles/spindles. When I originally built the bike in 1985 I intentionally choose those because of the possibility of the titanium being too brittle and snapping, as I had seen with others that had used the titanium spindles or bottom brackets.

The internal frame is very clean overall, I have been careful to maintain that over the years, using spray oil to keep a film to prevent any possible rust or corrosion internally.

This is the original build of the bicycle, as I did it myself in Feb 1985. The only change has been a new seat and also I used to ride tubulars and switched to the clinchers when I stopped racing.

Built in late winter (Feb) 1985 and I rode for about 2 yrs while I lived in Austin TX, during the 85 and 86 season, and it was the primary bike I rode all the time...I did have 3 other bikes that I used on and off, but not consistently as the Olmo......it was and still is a very nice ride and the feel of a quality steel frame can't be matched.

As far as how much it has been ridden it has somewhere in the 1500-2000 mile range total.

I am not sure if there is a market for this bicycle or what the value would be for sale, but at this point I feel it is time for me to let it go. I am guessing at a value ranging from as low as $500 to perhaps $1,500, with somewhere close to $1,00 being more realistic.

As much as I would like to keep this bike it has been hanging unused for many years now more than anything for sentimental reasons. It would be great to have it go to someone that would enjoy it and keep it as a whole bike, but I understand and respect the buyer ultimately will be able to do as they wish once they own it.

I have attached a few pictures for reference below. If anyone has some thoughts or suggestions I would be very interested on how I should proceed.

I will most likely put this into a for sale thread once I have some idea of what to do here.

Many thanks in advance !

Bob

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thinktubes 07-05-13 12:50 PM

Very nice bike. As a whole, $650 to $1000 if sold on ebay.

bikemig 07-05-13 01:12 PM

I like the binda straps with the little red pull up button. Very nice old school bike that appears to be in great shape. You won't get top dollar on this site compared to e-bay but if you find a buyer here, the hassle will be less than dealing with ebay. You may find a buyer locally via CL given that Austin is a pretty good market for bikes and you can advertise in Dallas as well. I would try to get my price either via this site or CL before going the e-bay route. Certainly worth $500 (which is the lowest price you mentioned). You can always ask your asking price (which appears to be $1k) on the local CL and on this site (since the costs are low, free on CL and $10 I think to join the site) and see what happens. You can lower your price accordingly if it doesn't move or take a shot at e-bay. Personally I'd ask $750-$800 for the bike on CL.

rcmorrow 07-06-13 07:30 AM

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I went down to my tools and parts storage and found tools and parts specific to this bike also that I will include with it. I attached photos below, but thought I should give a brief description also.

The tools include Campy spanner wrenches, bottom bracket and headset wrenches, the Peanut Butter wrench and cranks removal bolt.

Freewheels that are complete are 2 suntours, and then on the left is a Regina CX (the bike currently has a Regina CX on it also) and extra Regina cogs.

The chain rings are a Super Record 52T, and then the other two are Record, a modified 52T outer and then a 44T inner.

The bars are various Cinellis and Cinelli stems. A Campione Del Mondo, a Giro D'Italia, and also a modified drop bar, using the Cinelli black 1R stem (not sure if the stem is a 1R as I don't remember the catalog naming of them at this point). The longer stems are 100mm for the black, 95mm for the silver 1A, and 70mm for the short silver 1A.

I thought I should include these parts as they are really specific to the Campagnolo equipment and this bike.

Bob



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bikemig 07-06-13 07:35 AM

Those are sweet but you're better off selling these apart from the bike. There is a pretty healthy market for vintage parts. You could throw in a few as sweeteners and keep the rest aside to sell. If you search the site, you'll get an idea of what old parts in good shape can sell for.

thinktubes 07-06-13 11:20 AM

+ 10000000000

there's At least $400 worth of parts pictured there. It's fine (and wise) to sell them individually.

If you don't do it, whomever buys the bike will immediately sell the parts.

fiataccompli 07-06-13 11:50 AM

I dunno...those are the type of parts - and the kind of collection - I would probably keep and use if I were to buy it ..and, of course if the bars were wide enough..

rcmorrow 07-06-13 11:51 AM

Thank you for the suggestions. Have to see how things go with anyone showing real interest in the bike and I can sort out the parts as it goes. As I mentioned, the parts and tools are specific for the bike and its maintenance.

wrk101 07-06-13 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by rcmorrow (Post 15821027)
Thank you for the suggestions. Have to see how things go with anyone showing real interest in the bike and I can sort out the parts as it goes. As I mentioned, the parts and tools are specific for the bike and its maintenance.

Not really, those tools and parts are common to countless different bikes from that era. Sell them with the bike = gift to new owner. Sell them separately = maximum return. If I am the buyer, I love extras as they almost always are "free", and given enough extras, selling the extras along can cover what I paid for the bike. About 10% of the bikes I buy are this way.

rcmorrow 07-06-13 03:22 PM

Point taken wrk101. They are not specific to this bicycle, I do realize that. The Campy tools are specifically designed for the Campy parts of the era and parts from other manufacturers that used similar dimensions and specifications. I shared my thought about the tools as they are great to have with the bike and are all from the same timeframe of purchase, give or take a few months. I also realize that one does not need Campy tools to do work on Campy equipment, as there are a wide range of very high quality tool and parts manufacturers that make tools and related items that work extremely well, not only with Campy equipment, but with a wide range of other parts and components manufacturers.

jethin 07-07-13 01:29 PM

I know many people would say to maximize your profit (its the American way) but I'd vote for passing along the parts and getting some good karma back. Maybe just ask for an extra $50. The C&V world is already out of control price-wise if you ask me. There's something to be said for being satisfied with a square deal and of getting a nice bike back on the road beneath a nice person.


i realize not everyone shares my view, but there it is.

fiataccompli 07-07-13 05:44 PM

I share your view many times over! There's much to be said for that. IMHO, it's not just about the money.

rcmorrow 07-07-13 06:30 PM

Personally, as the builder and owner of the bike as well as owner of the tools that were used for building and maintaining this and other bikes I built at the time I would like to see everything go together to the new owner as a group, hopefully to be enjoyed as I have for so many years. I believe it is the right thing to do and I only hope that the next owner enjoys the bike as much as I did and will also enjoy maintaining it carefully as well, using the tools that were specifically designed for the components. This bike is somewhat like a fine piece of engineering art in a way, a glimpse of cycling history from years past now. While we purchase them, as will happen with this one, it is not really owned by the buyer, but kept, maintained, and enjoyed and then hopefully passed to the next to enjoy at some point in the future. While it is not a Stradivarius stringed instrument I am aware of stories that have been written and told by those that have owned a Strad.............sharing that they were fortunate and honored to have had it for a time in their lives to find joy with, and then pass it on to others to also find joy in the future. Yes, I am aware that what I have and plan on selling is just a bike and extra parts and tools, but it does have a history and I have been fortunate to have enjoyed it.............now it is time for me to let the next enjoy it also.

jethin 07-07-13 10:07 PM

I think you've got an excellent philosophy rcmorrow. Good luck with the sale.

for what it's worth I've bought all of my good bikes used at fair prices and I've always tried to express some gratitude toward the previous owners. I'm also looking forward to passing on a few bikes soon once I've completed fixing them up. I think there are a lot of folks here that do this -- not for the money so much as for the love, art and beauty of cycling.

rcmorrow 07-08-13 06:57 AM

Ok, selling this as a complete package, the bicycle and additional parts and tools. $1,500 and buyer pays for shipping and insurance costs. I hope the eventual buyer will keep everything together, but I am very aware and respect it is their choice to do as they wish. If you are interested in this bicycle or other details please send me a PM and I will get back to you. Thanks !

rcmorrow 07-15-13 03:16 PM

The thread for the sale can be found here:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...mo-Competition


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