Paramount PDG Series 7, difference if "Oversized tubes" ?
08-11-13, 12:49 PM
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Paramount PDG Series 7, difference if "Oversized tubes" ?
I have had this frame-set for several years and recently heard there was a difference in quality and value if it had " Oversized" marked on the seat tube. The serial # is 2E06728 It is built by Panasonic in Japan if it does not? And if it does which this one does it was built by who and out of what tubing? BTW I learned to post photo's on CL so if some-one could walk me thru how to here I would be obliged, Regards, Jack
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08-11-13, 01:04 PM
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I have had this frame-set for several years and recently heard there was a difference in quality and value if it had " Oversized" marked on the seat tube. It is built by Panasonic in Japan if it does not? And if it does which this one does it was built by who and out of what tubing? BTW I learned to post photo's on CL so if some-one could walk me thru how to here I would be obliged, Regards, Jack
1992 Series 7 Specifications
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08-11-13, 01:05 PM
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I do not have the talent to do that. I needed a friend to sit and tutor me and I wrote keystroke by keystroke instructions to be able to post photos. Even then it took three sessions and cost three lunches as his fee! Thanks any way
08-11-13, 01:07 PM
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I have Never tried to put a wheel into it so I guess I should do that right NOW
08-11-13, 01:18 PM
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08-11-13, 01:26 PM
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Jack, I don't know where you're measuring 15" and 14", but a 700c rim has a bead seat diameter of 622 mm, or 24.49". 650c rims have a bead seat diameter of 571 mm (22.48"). What are you measuring, radius with tire? Something doesn't sound right.
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08-12-13, 09:25 AM
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How to Post Photographs on teh Biek Forums
1. Your image files need to be relatively small ones, so set your camera to small files if it has a setting.
2. Take your photos (drive side photos, or people will whine about it).
3. Download them from camera to computer, and clearly label the file for future reference.
4. Under the "reply" box, click on the "go advanced" box.
5. In the new and more complicated reply window that opens, scroll down and click on the "manage attachment" box.
this will open a new, smaller window called "file upload manager".
6.Click on the box that says "Add Files" (green circle with + sign).
7. Yet another small box will open, titled "Upload files from your computer".
In this window, click on the box "select files".
8. A final small window will open, with a reference table on the left of various places in your computer where the files are stored.
You are looking in there for one that says "pictures", or something similar, or wherever you stored your photos that you took.
9. Select one or more of these photos after opening that file in your window. Left clicking on a photo selects it.
If you want to do multiples at one time, left click while holding down the "Control" key on your board.
10. click on the "Open" box and the files will appear as ready to upload in the "upload manager".
11. Click on the box that says "upload files". The photos will appear as thumbnails which are enlargeable
by anyone viewing your posting. You can, if you want to, insert them inline in the posting, but it's not required.
12. You are now finished.............
..........how come you never called me back ? Did I piss you off or something ?
2. Take your photos (drive side photos, or people will whine about it).
3. Download them from camera to computer, and clearly label the file for future reference.
4. Under the "reply" box, click on the "go advanced" box.
5. In the new and more complicated reply window that opens, scroll down and click on the "manage attachment" box.
this will open a new, smaller window called "file upload manager".
6.Click on the box that says "Add Files" (green circle with + sign).
7. Yet another small box will open, titled "Upload files from your computer".
In this window, click on the box "select files".
8. A final small window will open, with a reference table on the left of various places in your computer where the files are stored.
You are looking in there for one that says "pictures", or something similar, or wherever you stored your photos that you took.
9. Select one or more of these photos after opening that file in your window. Left clicking on a photo selects it.
If you want to do multiples at one time, left click while holding down the "Control" key on your board.
10. click on the "Open" box and the files will appear as ready to upload in the "upload manager".
11. Click on the box that says "upload files". The photos will appear as thumbnails which are enlargeable
by anyone viewing your posting. You can, if you want to, insert them inline in the posting, but it's not required.
12. You are now finished.............
..........how come you never called me back ? Did I piss you off or something ?
08-12-13, 10:21 AM
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A series 7 frameset in the condition that decals and labels are gone (assumption on my part, but if the decals were great, you would not have needed to pose the question on tubing) = minimal value. I bought mine on ebay as a frameset, in great condition, all the labels and decals were perfect, and it wasn't very much. The non-US Paramounts tend to get a low response from the marketplace, despite being very nice. And I have a bunch of them. So I would love to see the market recognize them more!
This is the 650 version, note, NONE of the components are original! I started with a frameset and built it up with a mix of DA7400 and DA7700 bits (OK, I just noticed crankset is Ultegra Hollowtech, so there's a third group and 600 tricolor pedals for a fourth group).
One easy way to tell the difference is head tube length. Look at how long the headtube is on mine, and yet, the ST is only 56cm.
Tubing on the two versions is identical (as Stan mentioned already).
This is the 650 version, note, NONE of the components are original! I started with a frameset and built it up with a mix of DA7400 and DA7700 bits (OK, I just noticed crankset is Ultegra Hollowtech, so there's a third group and 600 tricolor pedals for a fourth group).
One easy way to tell the difference is head tube length. Look at how long the headtube is on mine, and yet, the ST is only 56cm.
Tubing on the two versions is identical (as Stan mentioned already).
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