Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Peugeot Mixte Inquiry

Old 09-05-13, 01:31 AM
  #1  
Fahrenheit531 
In a Land Without Winter
Thread Starter
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,812

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked 367 Times in 199 Posts
Peugeot Mixte Inquiry

My wife and I are looking at this Peugeot Mixte on the Portland CL:

Blue Peugeot


The pictures leave much to be desired, but after looking at catalogs for an hour or so I'm thinking it's early 70s. Anyway, $300 seems pretty steep until I consider the panniers. We're looking to buy some anyway, and they seem like a pricey item.

Assuming good condition but could use a tune-up, where would you price it? Let's also assume it doesn't have the AVA "death stem" I read about.
Thanks in advance!
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 01:45 AM
  #2  
zukahn1 
Senior Member
 
zukahn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 8,088

Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 461 Post(s)
Liked 247 Times in 158 Posts
Nice condition and looking ready to ride helps. But at the end of the day it is a PUG with steel wheels cottered crank with lausy gearing touring wise Iffy simplex shifters. Even in Portland $120 bike with $30 of extras on the bike extras only get 30 cents on the dollar or less on used bikes. Nice bike but way too much money and I doubt the owner will come down price wise.
zukahn1 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 01:51 AM
  #3  
jyl
Senior Member
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,642

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 41 Times in 26 Posts
Bike about $150. Panniers maybe $20 - they are nothing special, kind of ugly.

I see a white Peugeot mixte posted 9/4 in NE Portland for $80, I'd grab that one and bring it by CityBikes, Velocult or Community Cycling Center if it needs work (that you can't do).
jyl is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 01:54 AM
  #4  
jyl
Senior Member
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,642

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 389 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 41 Times in 26 Posts
Note that now the rain's started, bike prices will start sliding on CL. I'd still pay $80 for a complete Peugeot mixte though.
jyl is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 02:04 AM
  #5  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,617

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times in 33 Posts
The U-18 above is a worth at least $225, if not more, in a coastal urban market. Mixte's get more money than diamond frame equivalents. I have sold freshly reconditioned Peugeot Mixte's for $225-$325 in the last 12 months. I would just want to make sure that the hubs, headset, and BB bearings were serviced in the last 3-5 years.



Last edited by oddjob2; 09-05-13 at 02:15 AM.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 05:18 AM
  #6  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,599

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 79 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 906 Post(s)
Liked 316 Times in 237 Posts
+1 With the Oracle. I sold a 1974 Peugeot mixte, fully refurbished, here in Hooterville for $210, and it sold fast. Adjust upward for red hot Portland market, plus fenders and panniers.

I can sell a 1970s Peugeot mixte, with steel rims, cottered crank, and high ten steel frame, for MORE than I can get for a 1980s Japanese mixte with alloy wheels and crank, and cromo frame. Does it make sense to me? No. But thats the market.

And aesthetically, they can be knockouts!




bill
wrk101 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 07:18 AM
  #7  
Fahrenheit531 
In a Land Without Winter
Thread Starter
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,812

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked 367 Times in 199 Posts
Thanks for the help, gents.

One thing mentioned above that works for me is scheduling. We're not far from months of nonstop rain, so I figure that will do wonders for my negotiating position.

I agree that the seller on the blue on seems pretty set on price. $500?! Either she's even less bike-savvy than I am or money's no object. Thanks for the tip on pannier selling value as well.

I was drawn to the white Peugeot at $80 myself... my wife doesn't dig the apparently chewed-up paint though.

Thanks again. We'll see how things proceed.
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 07:51 AM
  #8  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,617

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times in 33 Posts
If the CL seller bought the bike at one of Portland's vintage boutiques, $500 isn't out of the question.

Many BF male vintage enthusiasts drool over chrome lugs, Italian heritage frames, Campagnolo, Reynolds 531, Columbus SL, and anything celeste green.

Women vintage followers on the other hand, want what Velouria features, French mixte bikes and Dutch bikes. It has been more than a year since I have picked up a Motobecane mixte at a reasonable price, and +10 to what Thrifty Bill says about Peugeot U-18's with cottered cranks. The bike must look absolutely fresh: clean, shiny, great paint, and no rust are imperative. Then you get great feedback, like on the blue PH6 above:

"I have been thinking about connecting with you to let you know how happy I am with the bike. It is exactly what I was looking for and I really appreciated all you did to help facilitate the sale from afar. Thanks!"

Last edited by oddjob2; 09-05-13 at 07:57 AM.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 07:58 AM
  #9  
Fahrenheit531 
In a Land Without Winter
Thread Starter
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,812

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 664 Post(s)
Liked 367 Times in 199 Posts
Just a fountain of information, ain'tcha?
Thanks, amigo.
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 08:02 AM
  #10  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,617

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times in 33 Posts
Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
Just a fountain of information, ain'tcha?
Thanks, amigo.
You bet! Not a fountain of info, that would be T-Mar, WRK101, Auchencrow, or Scooper. Just a guy who knows how to dress up a mixte! Also, sold a few bikes here and there.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 03:31 PM
  #11  
michael k
Senior Member
 
michael k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Portland,Or
Posts: 1,160
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
If the CL seller bought the bike at one of Portland's vintage boutiques, $500 isn't out of the question.
Spot on! recently sold several mixte's on consignment.They don't last long and bring a premium.

This one is giong up on the block next with upgraded wheels and DR.


Last edited by michael k; 09-05-13 at 03:34 PM.
michael k is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 03:55 PM
  #12  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,599

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 79 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 906 Post(s)
Liked 316 Times in 237 Posts
+10 $500 from a boutique shop is very believable. Around here, rule of thumb, shops charge 50% to 75% more than market value from a private seller. Check out some of the on line store front prices sometimes, like the guy in Louisville, KY. Not exactly red hot Portland market, yet high prices.

Here's an example:

Stem shifter, Schwinn World Sport: $325

https://www.oldbikesbelong.com/projec...rld-sport-325/

Smaller sized World Sport: $375!!!:

https://www.oldbikesbelong.com/projec...sport-ten-325/
Miyata Sport Ten: $325

https://www.oldbikesbelong.com/projec...sport-ten-325/

Last edited by wrk101; 09-05-13 at 04:01 PM.
wrk101 is offline  
Old 09-05-13, 07:51 PM
  #13  
Lascauxcaveman 
Senior Member
 
Lascauxcaveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Posts: 7,897

Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.

Mentioned: 181 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1577 Post(s)
Liked 465 Times in 273 Posts
Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
If the CL seller bought the bike at one of Portland's vintage boutiques, $500 isn't out of the question.

Many BF male vintage enthusiasts drool over chrome lugs, Italian heritage frames, Campagnolo, Reynolds 531, Columbus SL, and anything celeste green.

Women vintage followers on the other hand, want what Velouria features, French mixte bikes and Dutch bikes. It has been more than a year since I have picked up a Motobecane mixte at a reasonable price, and +10 to what Thrifty Bill says about Peugeot U-18's with cottered cranks. The bike must look absolutely fresh: clean, shiny, great paint, and no rust are imperative. Then you get great feedback, like on the blue PH6 above:

"I have been thinking about connecting with you to let you know how happy I am with the bike. It is exactly what I was looking for and I really appreciated all you did to help facilitate the sale from afar. Thanks!"
The seller was nuts to pay $500 for that mixte; even in PDX. This is just a noob thing, getting taken advantage of.

I lived there for five years, and wouldn't want to own anything with steel rims, period. It's not Seattle, but it's still pretty wet there. Tough to negotiate with someone like that. They probably don't want to admit their mistake and cut their losses.

Recently, I was searching Seattle/Tacoma CL for a campus bike for my daughter. I saw lots of good candidates, mixtes and step-throughs, in the $50 - 175 price range there.
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Trek 400 ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
Lascauxcaveman is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bashley
Classic & Vintage
28
02-24-17 04:46 AM
Midtown
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
18
11-11-14 12:01 AM
cmdowns
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
10
11-21-11 08:33 AM
Pistard
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
0
08-21-11 10:47 AM
slushlover2
Classic & Vintage
17
06-05-10 11:17 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.