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Identify Schwinn Super Sport

Old 09-23-13, 05:30 PM
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Identify Schwinn Super Sport

Hello!

I am a newcomer to the forum, and was wondering if someone on here might help me solve the puzzle I'm facing... I got this bike about a month ago. The previous owner told me it probably was built in Chicago sometime between the late 60's - early 80's. I tried to get information about the bike based on the serial number, only to find that the number didn't match ANY descriptions for Schwinn serial numbers I could find online. From what I can tell, it's 4C06998. After talking to an equally-bewildered Schwinn representative on the phone this morning, I decided to field my conundrum to the knowledgeable community here. Any thoughts?

Here's a photo of the head tube:


That's a 4 at the beginning, right?
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Old 09-23-13, 05:43 PM
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The serial number indicates the frame is Japanese, probably built by National/Panasonic, and was manufactured in March, 1984.

Originally Posted by Schwinn Bulletin 23

Bicycles from Japan have a production month letter in either the first or second position and a production year number in the other (first or second) position. Examples J677123 = September, 1976, 6J77123 = September, 1976.

Le Tour (and Super Le Tour) numbers (1978-80 and 1982 on) include the letter “S” with a production month letter followed by a series on numbers, the first one telling the year of production (8-1978, 0-1980). Example SC94653-March, 1979.

A=January, B=February, C=March, D=April, E=May, F=June, G=July, H=August, I=Not Used, J=September, K=October, L=November, M=December


1984 Specifications
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A photo of the whole bike always helps...

All the catalogs are online here: https://www.trfindley.com/pg_schwinn_cats.htm

But since I can read the date stamp and am a Jedi Master with the catalogs I can tell you with some certainty you have a 1984 Super Sport. Here's that catalog page: https://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1...984Ltwt07.html

Edit: and Scooper beats me to it! I got too confident. Only the apprentice, am I.
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Old 09-23-13, 05:54 PM
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What's the four digits on the head badge, 0144, signify?
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
14th day of year ending in 4, which in this case, is 1984. I wish more manufacturers would use this simple but effective method. So 0144 = January 14th, 1984.
In this case there is a discrepency between the January 14, 1984 assembly date of the bike and the frame serial number which indicates the frame was manufactured in March, 1984. Since the bike couldn't have been assembled before the frame was built, either the headbadge assembly date or the frame serial number is wrong. I'd bet the serial number is correct any day since I have seen screwed up headbadge date codes several times before.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Stan, did Panasonic attach the head badges, or was that done after the bikes arrived in the US? I kind of wonder if Schwinn just sent them a box of them to attach. I've had a fair number of Schwinns from that era where someone neglected to put any date code on the headbadge.
Bill, I just don't know the answer to that. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Stan, did Panasonic attach the head badges, or was that done after the bikes arrived in the US? I kind of wonder if Schwinn just sent them a box of them to attach. I've had a fair number of Schwinns from that era where someone neglected to put any date code on the headbadge.
I worked at a bike shop in the early 80's that sold Panasonic bikes. Quite often they came with Schwinn "S" on seat bolts, and other random bolts.
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The previous owner told me it probably was builtin Chicago sometime between the late 60's - early 80's.
Schwinn re-used model names over the years. The Chicago built Super Sports (1964-1973) were fillet brazed. The later Japanese ones were lugged.

Info on Chicago built fillet brazed bikes:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html

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Old 09-24-13, 07:53 AM
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Scooper: Wow, thank you! Thirteen minutes - that was FAST!
This is most helpful:
The serial number indicates the frame is Japanese, probably built by National/Panasonic, and was manufactured in March, 1984.
And the page with all of the specs is also a great source of information.

FastJake: Thank you as well! As for this...
A photo of the whole bike always helps...
Here's a blurry, hurried photo I took a couple of days ago; if I do some noteworthy work on it, I'll re-post a higher quality shot.
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Nice looking bike.

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Here's another one that appears to be about the same age:

Serial number on the head tube lower lug is 4D04107.



It went for its first ride in quite a while a couple of days ago.

I don't need an ID or an appraisal, just put the pictures here because I like the color.
Is there really any way to tell for certain if these were or were not sourced from Panasonic ?
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Old 11-08-13, 01:17 AM
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What is the headbadge number?
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Originally Posted by Metacortex View Post
What is the headbadge number?
...I looked and although it appears to be marked, I cannot really make out what it says. Maybe in daylight with a magnifying glass ?
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