Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Bomb Raleighs, fix or diss?

Old 10-05-13, 11:21 PM
  #1  
Aeryn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Bomb Raleighs, fix or diss?

Got these two Raleighs at $180 each a while back. I will now explain the problems with them:

Brown
When shifted to second, the chain(I think) doesn't actually grab at all, so you are peddling into thin air.
Brakes scream like a banshee.
When you go over a bump, it shifts itself.

Black
Same as the brown one, shifts when you go over a bump, usually from 1st to 2nd.

I have slowly realized I probably overpaid a lot for them. Recently tried to sell them but no luck so far.
Had the idea of turning the black into a project, replacing the wheels and slapping a derailleur on it. Curious if the frame on these is worth it. They are both Raleigh Sports btw.

Also advice would be awesome.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
photo 1.jpg (100.1 KB, 29 views)
File Type: jpg
photo 2.jpg (101.6 KB, 19 views)
Aeryn is offline  
Old 10-05-13, 11:38 PM
  #2  
zukahn1 
Senior Member
 
zukahn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 8,028

Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 445 Post(s)
Liked 230 Times in 148 Posts
Both these nice three speeds are worth close to what you paid for them. The slight shift problem can be corrected somewhat by oiling the hubs and adjsuting the shift cables. Yet the occasional bumb shift from vintage 3speed is pretty typicaly no big deal shouldn't hurt value. Whatever you do don't change these to shifter bikes it would wreck them making them almost worthless.
zukahn1 is offline  
Old 10-05-13, 11:51 PM
  #3  
Aeryn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
Both these nice three speeds are worth close to what you paid for them. The slight shift problem can be corrected somewhat by oiling the hubs and adjsuting the shift cables. Yet the occasional bumb shift from vintage 3speed is pretty typicaly no big deal shouldn't hurt value. Whatever you do don't change these to shifter bikes it would wreck them making them almost worthless.
That is great to hear! Thanks. The black one is fairly rusted I think. Paint is in poor condition. I guess my problem is they don't have that shiny appearance, but vintage look. If that makes sense at all...

Any advice on how to fix the brown not working in 2nd?
Aeryn is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 12:05 AM
  #4  
zukahn1 
Senior Member
 
zukahn1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 8,028

Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 445 Post(s)
Liked 230 Times in 148 Posts
Well on a rough not right SA hub to get to second you over shift two third when riding then back to get to second.
zukahn1 is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 12:26 AM
  #5  
Aeryn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
Well on a rough not right SA hub to get to second you over shift two third when riding then back to get to second.
I think I have tried that though. No matter what I am shifting from, once in second, it isn't catching and I am just peddling with no resistance.
Aeryn is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 12:51 AM
  #6  
prathmann
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Posts: 7,239
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Aeryn View Post
Any advice on how to fix the brown not working in 2nd?
AIRC, on Sturmey-Archer 3-speeds there is a neutral position in between 2nd and 3rd gears. So it sounds as if your cable is misadjusted. There should be an adjustment bolt and nut located at the hub end of the cable, where the chain coming out of the hub attaches to the cable. Turn that to make the cable tighter until the gears work properly.
prathmann is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 08:09 AM
  #7  
jjames1452 
Senior Member
 
jjames1452's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 1,353

Bikes: Trek 720, Trek 620, Trek 520, Steel Schwinns, AD Puch, Kona, Nishiki Pro, All City Disc Spacehorse, Waterford

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Liked 58 Times in 34 Posts
I couldn't tell where you lived - if it was close to Dayton Ohio.
I would be interested in the black bike as a winter project if you were close enough.
I do not have a 3 speed. The price and value probably doesn't warrant shipping costs.

There are vintage 3 speed tour events in Ohio that I have always wanted to participate in.
jjames1452 is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 08:27 AM
  #8  
0.2HP
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 213
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Best place to start learning about fixing/maintaining/adjusting your bikes:

https://sheldonbrown.com/english-3.html
https://sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html

For the bike that is not shifting into second:

1. Adjust the cable correctly.
2. Add oil (there is a port in the middle ofthe rear hub.) Use light weight petroleum gear oil. Do NOT use the regular 3 in 1 oil (you can us this brand if it says “petroleum” on it.)
3. Ride it and shift a lot. Be prepared for it to free wheel in second (like it does now.) After a few mile the oil should work its way around in the mechanism and free up the stuck parts are preventing it from engaging second gear.

For the brakes that scream like a bansee, get a new frontwheel with an aluminum alloy rim, like this:

https://www.google.com/#q=26x1-3%2F8+Front+Alloy&tbm=shop

(26 x 1-3/8 wheel size also known as ISO 590 mm, 650A, and E.A.3: https://sheldonbrown.com/26.html)

An alloy rim will make the bike feel livelier and will reduce stopping distance (especially in the rain.) There are benefits to replacing the real wheel too, but the biggest cost/benefit ratio is with the front wheel.
If the brake still squeal with an aluminum rim, Google can help you find other fixes to try.

Raleigh Sports are like Model T Fords; you can keep them running for ever if you are constantly fiddling with them.

Last edited by 0.2HP; 10-06-13 at 10:12 AM.
0.2HP is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 09:03 AM
  #9  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,614

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 31 Posts
New Diacompe grey matter brake shoes for $9 for at Amazon.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 10-06-13, 11:27 AM
  #10  
Aeryn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jjames1452 View Post
I couldn't tell where you lived - if it was close to Dayton Ohio.
I live in San Francisco, so it is up to you.

Originally Posted by 0.2HP View Post
Raleigh Sports are like Model T Fords; you can keep them running for ever if you are constantly fiddling with them.
Looks like a really good place to start. Thanks for the help.
Problem is I do not really have the space nor the time to fix these bikes. Was hoping to sell them for at least equal to what I paid, SF is a pretty hot market I think.

What would be the best method for cleaning the frame? Not exactly sure if it is actual rust or oxidation. Never bothered cleaning it after I bought it, thats how little time I have.
Aeryn is offline  
Old 10-07-13, 03:27 AM
  #11  
jjames1452 
Senior Member
 
jjames1452's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 1,353

Bikes: Trek 720, Trek 620, Trek 520, Steel Schwinns, AD Puch, Kona, Nishiki Pro, All City Disc Spacehorse, Waterford

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 135 Post(s)
Liked 58 Times in 34 Posts
Originally Posted by Aeryn View Post
I live in San Francisco, so it is up to you.
Thank you. The shipping fee would likely be equal to the bike's worth - so that would not be practical.
SF is a hot bike market. Good luck selling them!
jjames1452 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
aaronrob222
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
3
09-27-17 10:50 AM
mkuivama
Classic & Vintage
22
09-08-15 03:20 PM
DavidPT40
Hybrid Bicycles
8
04-05-15 04:15 PM
tommywpg
Classic & Vintage
9
04-25-13 07:12 AM
buck mulligan
Classic & Vintage
18
04-13-10 08:48 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.