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1989 Centurion Ironman Master - 48cm

Old 11-02-13, 09:24 AM
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1989 Centurion Ironman Master - 48cm







48cm frame. My wife is gonna try it out. If she doesn't like it, I'll probably sell/trade it.
It's taking a lot for me to not strip it for it's components to put on my bike. Full Shimano 6400 series group.
Needs some light polishing. There's a computer on it and I think one of the straps caused some browning on the chain stay... bummer.

If she doesn't like it, how much do you think it's worth and what can I do to make it more attractive?
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Glad BF member got this one, I emailed on it. Well worth the CL price if this is that one. I would guess around $350-400 but I'm sure more knowledgeable guys will tell you better than I can. Nice catch
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Bearings need to be re-greased and cables need to be replaced at minimum, before the bike is ridden. I see rusty cables and riding on 20 year old grease will destroy all the bearings.

Those Araya CTL-370 rims are sweet, they're some of the lightest clincher rims I've ever come across at about 380g on my scale. I also love the tri-color group as seen in my signature.

Cleaned up, ready to ride, I agree $350 should be reasonable. Want to make it look better? Raise the saddle, angle the bars down a bit, and maybe put on some blackwall tires. I'm generally not a fan of tan sidewalls.
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they're vintage Panaracer wheels. Possibly original.
I'll replace the cables, no problem.
which bearings should I be regreasing? BB, Headset? Axles too?

I removed the vintage computer from it and polished the hubs clean.
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If it turns, regrease it, wheel bearing, BB, headset, pedals.

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Old 11-02-13, 08:08 PM
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As suggested, if your wife prefers a Velouria like lovely bike mixte, I would overhaul it, slap a white origin8 aero saddle on it, vittorio zaffiro blackwalls, and list it for Mid 300's. Then find her a nice Lotus Mixte and put VO touring bars on it.

https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/4095345211.html
I have both an Excelle and a Challenger in the work queue, very light and Shimano 600 arabesque.

Deal buy both
https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/4164129489.html

You can overhaul and recondition them and get $250 +/- for the one your wife doesn't want to keep.

Below is my 87 Expert, with the aforementioned tires an a vintage Vetta saddle.


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Originally Posted by chapel View Post
which bearings should I be regreasing? BB, Headset? Axles too?
ALL of them that you don't want ruined. Hubs, BB, headset, and pedals.
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ok.
I wonder how much that'll run me.
Seems like the previous owner kept it in good order. I don't see any 'leaky oil' stains around the BB or Headset like I did with my bike
I don't have headset or bb tools.
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ok.
I wonder how much that'll run me.
Seems like the previous owner kept it in good order. I don't see any 'leaky oil' stains around the BB or Headset like I did with my bike
I don't have headset or bb tools.
You won't find oil stains because the old grease is more like a dried out can of crisco. Read this:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...sson-for-Noobs

Tool list:
park HCW 4 $18
park HCW 5 $15
park crank puller $15, though I like Pedro's better
Park grease $8

REI will have them. Start spraying the cup threads with pb blaster today. Presoaking is key to easy removal.

3/16 bearings $7.50
https://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...ngs-bottle-150

1/4 bearings $13.50 for rear hub + BB
https://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...-bottle-of-150

Buy tools, parts, cables, and anything else at Niagara, get free shipping with $100 spending.

No special headset tools needed. Just a large crescent wrench, 12", or channel lock pliers + rag. If the bearings look worn, take the retainers to LBS for replacement.

Have you overhauled your Lemans bearings?

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If that Lotus Excelle Mixte was closer I'd have bought it the day it was listed. It looks totally original and it's a popular color.

In my eyes, tan sidewalls look better on vintage bikes. All black tires look heavy and cheap to me, personal preference.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
You won't find oil stains because the old grease is more like a dried out can of crisco. Read this:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...sson-for-Noobs

Tool list:
park HCW 4 $18
park HCW 5 $15
park crank puller $15, though I like Pedro's better
Park grease $8

REI will have them. Start spraying the cup threads with pb blaster today. Presoaking is key to easy removal.

3/16 bearings $7.50
https://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...ngs-bottle-150

1/4 bearings $13.50 for rear hub + BB
https://www.niagaracycle.com/categori...-bottle-of-150

Buy tools, parts, cables, and anything else at Niagara, get free shipping with $100 spending.

No special headset tools needed. Just a large crescent wrench, 12", or channel lock pliers + rag. If the bearings look worn, take the retainers to LBS for replacement.

Have you overhauled your Lemans bearings?
Yes, my father brought it to a vintage specialist for an overhaul. I'm not playing with Whitworth bolts and cotters.

I'll look into getting those tools. I guess I thought you had to remove the headset to grease it.

Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Given how "well" the PO maintained the cables (not at all), safe to assume what you can't see has had zero maintenance in 25 years.

Get some tools, they will pay for themselves by the second or third job. In 500 + bikes, I have yet to have found a single 25 year old bike where the bearings and grease did not need service. Left alone, you will eventually do damage to the bearing surfaces ($$).

+1 No special headset tools required, but you will need a crank puller, bb tools, and cone wrenches.

I just use marine grease, I buy a 1 pound tub of it at a nearby auto parts store for $4. Or pay 50% more than that for a 1/4 pound tube of Parks grease.

+10 MTB craptastic saddle needs to go. While I am a huge gumwall fan, it depends on the bike and era. This one being late 1980s and a racing bike, I would go with blackwalls.

+100 All of those mixtes are deals! The Lotus is the winner (+1 To Snydermann)
I did my own axles on my 27" wheels... but I didn't have a cone wrench, and I think I tightened them too much...
I also haven't greased the BB or headset on my Sport DLX either... I was hoping to just replace the BB and headset with something nicer anyway.
At this point, my wife doesn't want to ride it, so it's just going to go in my basement until she's ready. Probably next spring.
That is, unless someone makes me an offer on it as-is.
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I would keep the bike. Centurion Ironman bikes are great. My 'Miami Vice' Ironman is probably the least valuable bike that I ride yet it is one of my favorites. I also have a Centurion LeMans which I am flipping and have owned a Super LeMans and Elite RS. All were nice bikes.
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