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trailmix 01-27-14 07:20 AM

86 Raleigh GP
 
I stumbled across an 86 Raleigh Grand Prix in fair shape and I was wondering the approximate value of the GP. I apologize but I don't have pictures. The paint is fair, all the components are there but the wheels are mismatched and in poor shape so obviously new wheels are in order. IMO new wheels, cables and a good tune up would make this a decent rider. Oh, one more thing, does anybody know what company built these frames or did Raleigh make their own for the GP? I have been looking for an older Raleigh for the last few months but I have yet to take the plunge. I know very little about Raleighs so any advice on what to look for is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

trailmix 01-27-14 07:58 AM

Thanks for the info. I just can't seem to find a decent Raleigh for a decent price. I guess the name recognition drives the prices up or something. The seller is asking $225-I was going to offer $100 but now I am not sure.

r0ckh0und 01-27-14 08:51 AM

Does it have a tubing decal on the seat tube.....................They made a Grand Prix with Reynolds 531 tubing.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4ea***vnNl...+Bikes+030.JPG

trailmix 01-27-14 09:21 AM

Yes it is 531, same frame as pictured.

trailmix 01-27-14 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by r0ckh0und (Post 16443971)
Does it have a tubing decal on the seat tube.....................They made a Grand Prix with Reynolds 531 tubing.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4ea***vnNl...+Bikes+030.JPG

Pardon my ignorance but did Raleigh build a GP with different tubing?

r0ckh0und 01-27-14 10:17 AM

Yes........most of the GP's were low end. These frames and components were considerably nicer.

When I acquired this one it was wearing a mix of Raleigh branded components and Golden Arrow.

I sold this one (F/F) for $95, although I think it's worth at least $150, the paint is good and it's 531.

With the paint in poor condition on the one your looking at..........there are several other variables to consider. Will the stem and seat post remove easily, often times the headsets are indexed on 25+ year old bikes, look for dents or other frame damage.

For a flip I might pay $125, for a rider probably not much more given the work involved.

There are a few examples of these on the C&V forum here but they are somewhat difficult to locate because of the model name.

This is why pictures are so important in evaluations.

Standalone 01-27-14 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 16443782)
I am assuming it is a Raleigh USA. Given description, I might pay $25 for it, $50 max. Hard to overcome "fair paint". Components can be swapped/upgraded, given your description, that's some serious $$ in replacements. Repainting often costs more than the completed project, so after you are done, you will have a lot of money into a bike with fair paint.

In great condition, its a $250 bike. 1986 is the Huffy/Raleigh era, which I am not that fond of. Certainly the GP was head and shoulders better than anything with the Huffy brand name.


From wikepedia:

"In 1982, rights to the Raleigh USA name were purchased by the Huffy Corporation. Under the terms of the agreement,Raleigh of England licensed Huffy to design and distribute Raleigh bicycles in the USA,[SUP][6][/SUP] and Huffy was given instant access to a nationwide network of bike shops."

My '85 Raleigh USA touring bicycle is excellent. It's an Alyeska. I paid somewhere in the mid $300s for it in nearly unridden condition on ebay. (orig gold chain & freewheel had no grease, etc...)

Re-branded Reynolds 501 frame, great geometry and correct fittings for touring.

I'm not sure when Taiwanese manufacturing began to put out quality bicycles, but IME, these are definitely very nice, very underrated bicycles. More bikes pass through WRK's hands than mine, but I think that the association with HUFFY alone isn't enough to damn this run of bicycles.

trailmix 01-27-14 11:22 AM

Thanks for the responses. It is a 51cm and I was looking at it for my wife, I know she will really dig the color but I may let this one go.

Trakhak 01-27-14 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Standalone (Post 16444355)
My '85 Raleigh USA touring bicycle is excellent. It's an Alyeska. I paid somewhere in the mid $300s for it in nearly unridden condition on ebay. (orig gold chain & freewheel had no grease, etc...)

Re-branded Reynolds 501 frame, great geometry and correct fittings for touring.

I'm not sure when Taiwanese manufacturing began to put out quality bicycles, but IME, these are definitely very nice, very underrated bicycles. More bikes pass through WRK's hands than mine, but I think that the association with HUFFY alone isn't enough to damn this run of bicycles.

I still regret that I didn't buy an Alyeska when I was working at a Raleigh dealership in the late '80s. Those were fantastic bikes. Not rebranded 501, though; you can be sure that any bike company that paid for genuine Reynolds tubing would use the Reynolds decal.

If you're curious about this, you can check google images for a 1986 Raleigh USA spec sheet. The same page that lists the Reynolds 531 tubing---three main tubes---for the Raleigh Grand Prix shows that the Alyeska used Raleigh 555 tubing, a.k.a. Tange or Ishiwata tubing, with a decal design that was meant to suggest kinship to Reynolds.

zukahn1 01-27-14 11:56 AM

While it is a 531 frame it is still a Raliegh USA Grand Prix in pretty rough shape that needs a wheelset based on description. I couldn't see one going over a $100 on this bike. The sellers asking price is about what one of these should go for in excellent shape in most markets.

Standalone 01-27-14 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 16444420)
I still regret that I didn't buy an Alyeska when I was working at a Raleigh dealership in the late '80s. Those were fantastic bikes. Not rebranded 501, though; you can be sure that any bike company that paid for genuine Reynolds tubing would use the Reynolds decal.

If you're curious about this, you can check google images for a 1986 Raleigh USA spec sheet. The same page that lists the Reynolds 531 tubing---three main tubes---for the Raleigh Grand Prix shows that the Alyeska used Raleigh 555 tubing, a.k.a. Tange or Ishiwata tubing, with a decal design that was meant to suggest kinship to Reynolds.

Some have argued in other threads that it was actually reynolds-produced and sold to Raleigh USA, which is what I was going by. Asian production, though, makes it more likely that the "Raleigh 555" was as you say from Tange or Ishiwata. I'd bet it's pretty much equivalent to the 501 seamed tubeset, though.

Regardless, it's a great bike.

Gratuitous shot of the day I got it (did your shop sell them with Raleigh branded toeclip straps/waterbottle/rims?):

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...a/DSC08001.jpg

Standalone 01-27-14 04:53 PM

http://louisville.craigslist.org/bik/4275364181.html

Here's the Kodiak, which was one step up from the Alyeska.... $275

Trakhak 01-28-14 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Standalone (Post 16445308)
http://louisville.craigslist.org/bik/4275364181.html

Here's the Kodiak, which was one step up from the Alyeska.... $275

One step up, but not as pretty. Can't get over the beautiful condition of your Alyeska. Plus, I'd rank that color combination up there with mid-'60 Frejus bikes, which might be the prettiest bikes ever. I'll bet you sit around looking at it a lot. I would.

To answer your earlier question about the Raleigh-branded accessories, the Raleigh straps and bottles came with the bikes during the Raleigh USA era. We used to stock the bottles in the shop, but not the toe straps and toe clips, I think. Still have some odds and ends Raleigh stuff around the house, though---a mid-'80s Raleigh Technium T-shirt and a wind jacket in red, yellow, and black Raleigh team colors from the mid-'70s.


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