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Old 03-07-14, 02:30 PM
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Help Identifying Frame 1/2

I bought a couple of frames for the cheap from an old guy who restores bicycles as a hobby. I wanted to try my hand on these frames and pick up some skill and knowledge before I started dumping money on more expensive builds. Here are the pictures for the first frame. I intend to build a beefy tourer out of this.

The decals/manufacturer logo was not present. There were signs of them existing though. It had a DIN sticker attached to it, with the German "Kontroller No" on the base, I am assuming a European origin. Please let me know if you need more pictures of the frame.
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Old 03-07-14, 07:36 PM
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I was thinking it was a Maxwell Smart bike, but his Kontrol No. was 86.
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Whatever it is, it is a very, very low-end frame. If you're going to go to some trouble to build up a bike, I would not use this frame. The Schwinn is a better starting point.
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I am far from an expert (see signature) but that one looks like scrap metal. The problem with not wanting to start with a nicer frame is the components cost the same, and usually more than the whole bike, so building a junk frame is a money loosing proposition. What you want to do is REbuild a nice bike.
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Originally Posted by hariharan85
. . . I am assuming a European origin. . . .
You might try the Danish serial numbers. I cannot read the start of the serial number, but it ends with an "H". In the Danish system that means year 1949, 1971, or 1992.


LONGJOHN.ORG - Determining age and manufacturer of a Long John bike

Danish bicycle VIN-system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Doing anything to those would lead to total KAOS
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this thread needs to be sent to agent LXLIX.
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Originally Posted by juvela
this thread needs to be sent to agent LXLIX.
I apologize. I am new here and that reference is lost on me.
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Originally Posted by hariharan85
I apologize. I am new here and that reference is lost on me.
If you keep reading this thread, I'm sure you will Get Smart.
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hello hariharan85,

the secret to the mystery is kept safely in Bianchigirll's shoephone.
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Maybe it is time for the cone of silence?
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hmmm....Zis ees KAOS, Ve dont Get Smart here?
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Kynast of West Germany

@hariharan85, I found another Kontroll Nr.





Kynast of West Germany as found at:

********** **********???: KYNAST CITY BIKE 80s MADE IN W GERMANY

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Wow, @Hummer
That was a great find. I think its the same bike going from the head tube lug shape. I still have the frame as it is. It looks too bad to build it back up.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by hariharan85
Wow, @Hummer
That was a great find. I think its the same bike going from the head tube lug shape. I still have the frame as it is. It looks too bad to build it back up.
Thank you.
You are welcome. Thanks for originally posting your bicycle pictures and posing the question.

We finally "Got Smart", about this bicycle.
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