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The Ugliest Paramount, Period.

Old 03-21-14, 12:09 PM
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The Ugliest Paramount, Period.

So here's an odd take on "what's it worth" for you...
This is probably the ugliest repaint I have ever seen on a high-end bike. Not probably. Definitely. The bike is languishing on CL for the obvious reason, and the asking price is gradually coming down. So at what point does this bike actually become worth buying (meaning the purchase price plus the price of a decent repaint is about equal to the real value of the bike before it became a 90s graphic art disaster)?

Vintage Schwinn Paramount Aluminum Bicycle - $450 (Tualatin)



Vintage race bike made for racers on the Schwinn team. I had it painted in 1992 by Blowsion colors in Tualatin. Built with new Dura Ace 7400 8sp group. About 100 miles on group. Wheels on it are older with higher miles. ultegra hubs laced to 700c Mavic Open 4cd rims. Original wheels not included. I am willing to consider selling the original wheels for the right offer; Dura Ace 28h hubs laced to Mavic CXP33 tubulars no tires on them currently. 54cm-56cm frame depending on how you measure (see photos). 55cm top tube 145cm head tube 73deg geometry. Bike hasn't been ridden since 1997, just been hangin' in the garage. 503-919-1489
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Old 03-21-14, 12:18 PM
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Fork bent?

Actually, with the right combination of tires, wrap, and saddle, that paint job would be okay. I know nothing about aluminum Paramounts though.
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Old 03-21-14, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Looks like one of the 434, xxx, xxx, series that were NOT Paramounts.
I agree. They had a sticker that said "Paramount Design Group" on them that led people to believe they were Paramounts. This one definitely has a quill seatpost. Was there ever a Paramount that used one of those? For that matter, was there ever a true Paramount that was aluminum? I've never seen one.

And yeah, that is really ugly.

Anyway, the value in that is totally in the group. Weird to see Dura Ace on one of these. The frame is worth very little. I had one and I gave it away.
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I don't believe it's a Paramount either.
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Old 03-21-14, 02:15 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for the unexpected observations.
Now I can quit looking at the blasted thing.
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Old 03-21-14, 02:34 PM
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I don't think it's bad at all! Much better than the typical early 90's crackle and fade jobs out there....Heck!, it's even similar to the paint accents put on a new Pegoretti just delivered to a fellow C&Ver on this forum that people had been giving lots of praises to!
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If by ugly you mean awesome than I agree

One of the only bikes that splash tape is completely appropriate.
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Originally Posted by J.Oxley View Post
Now I can quit looking at the blasted thing.
...there are things that, once seen, cannot be unseen.
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Not a real Paramount, definitely has the problematic quill seatpost. Frame is worthless. Dura Ace group is worth money though, but missing the original wheelset "for the right price" or whatever sucks.

Pass, at that price.
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Not even the garage door can help that.
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The group is worth $300-$400 on ebay. The rims look very worn. I wouldn't go over $300 for it.
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I think the paint is "CHOICE" but I am kind of a 80s reject. I also agree the value is in the group.
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What a beauty.
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PDG era aero with whacked paint job and seat cluster which baffles most C&V members how could a company like Schwinn even banckrupt and on the ropes think this was great. Most would not consider this a Paramount yet if nothig is bad and the DA group is solid this bike should be a pretty good vintage rider. I quess to truely anser the OP's question not worth $750 but could be a nice bike and OK deal at half that price.

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