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Old 04-28-14, 02:36 PM
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Classic Touring Bikes

I'm looking at getting a touring bike, and I've got leads on three:
1) Late '80s Trek 520. It has canti brakes and down tube shifters. Looks decent. Seller asking $400
2) Sekai Magnum S7. Sun tour Cyclone M 11, 700C s Wheels. Says very clean, looking for $525
3) Raleigh Wyoming. Good shape, but would take more doing to get set up to tour on. Seller asking $225.

I'm a bit surprised at the asking prices for these--they seem a bit high. Any advice which prices seem more reasonable?
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Old 04-28-14, 02:49 PM
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I would focus on the trek 520, if in decent shape and it fits make an offer as they are sought after tour bikes and are good sellers in most markets. 300-400 would be fair price if in good shape for local sale, but may be worth a bit more or less depending on condition and specs.

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Old 04-28-14, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
I have sold quite a few touring bikes, including several Trek 520s. Any of the better touring bikes will bring $400 +/-. I would rate the 520 as one of those. Size also enters into it. The smaller the frame size, the higher the price. The top of the line touring bikes (Miyata 1000, Trek 720, etc.) will bring even more.

$525 for a Sakai is silly high. The Wyoming is not a match for the Trek 520.

What does "looks decent" mean? At the $400 price point here, it should be pristine and ready to ride. Deduct for defects. Note, in red hot markets, prices are higher.

Generally, from the same brand and era, a nice touring bike will bring 50% to 100% more than an equivalent road/racing model. The better ones will have cantilever brakes and braze ons for fenders and racks. I like bar ends, but not everyone is so in love with them. Realize a good set of vintage bar ends sell for about $50 on ebay right now.
+1 to everything here. Minneapolis / St. Paul is definitely a hot market for vintage touring bikes. I sold a Centurion Pro Tour there in Very Good condition w/o the original RD for $400 quickly a year ago. EDIT: But mine was ready to go on tour right out of the door -- consumables etc all in perfect shape.

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Old 04-28-14, 11:04 PM
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Well these are some nice Touring bikes a bit overpriced IMHO even for a hot market. I would go for the Trek 520 which if in good shape is a fair deal. The other two are just way over priced buy a couple of hundred while nice bikes realy nice semi off brand like the Sekai which is likely a rebranded Miyata 800-1000 series should only go for $300 give or take and as said the Wyoming just doesn't measure up and should only be $250 bike.
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Old 04-29-14, 05:49 AM
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The 520 if ready to ride and good cosmetically, is FMV or even slightly below.I've paid less, but they need a full $200 overhaul + parts.



As to @wrk101's comments about touring bike values, I sold this Miyata 618GT, with a new Cannondale rear rack and drop bars, for $350 a month ago.
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If you want a vintage bike for touring and don't want to spend that much money, look for a vintage mtb. You can add trekking bars to them and slicks to make the bikes more road friendly. They're tough bikes that can make good touring bikes. Plus they are relatively undervalued compared to road bikes of the same era.
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Old 04-29-14, 06:12 AM
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Where are you finding these in the cities? I didn't see the Trek 520 on Craigslist. I am asking because I am going to be there in a couple of weeks and am looking to sell a 520 and wanted to know if there is another place to list bikes there.

(I have a smaller late 90s vintage 520 with bar end shifters, it works great; I recently put new aero brakes on it, new cables and new housing on everything, and new tires but the paint looks terrible. I believe the frame is 19 inches from center of crank to top of seat tube and the standover is a hair over 29 inches so it is a smaller frame though not the smallest. The stem is really long.)

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Old 04-29-14, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Aesthetics matter on value! Rough paint and silly long stem on a small frame are both big turn offs. They don't matter on a keeper of course. Most buyers of small frame bikes expect/want a short stem.
+1 For a bike to get top dollar it needs to have a frame correct stem odd parts really hurt or even kill value. Buyers typically want a nice basically stock setup.
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Dang, I just bought an '89 Trek 520 for $100. It was dirty and hadn't been ridden for 20 years. I am putting about a hundred bucks into it for tires, cables, housings, bar tape, pads, chain, cassette, etc, and then of course new grease everywhere. Guess I got a good deal, if $400 is fair for one. Came with panniers, too!

Here's a crummy cell phone picture of when I brought it home. I think the stem is the only thing that's not stock.
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Old 04-29-14, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Aesthetics matter on value! Rough paint and silly long stem on a small frame are both big turn offs. They don't matter on a keeper of course. Most buyers of small frame bikes expect/want a short stem.
That is fine. It is easy to change the stem.

The real problem with the bike is how ugly the paint looks. Not much I can do about that and it certainly will effect the value.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
Dang, I just bought an '89 Trek 520 for $100. It was dirty and hadn't been ridden for 20 years. I am putting about a hundred bucks into it for tires, cables, housings, bar tape, pads, chain, cassette, etc, and then of course new grease everywhere. Guess I got a good deal, if $400 is fair for one. Came with panniers, too!

Here's a crummy cell phone picture of when I brought it home. I think the stem is the only thing that's not stock.
If that's the one sold in Brooklyn leaning against a washing machine, including a history of where the seller toured on it, you beat me to the punch on that one, even though I responded within an hour of the posting on Good Friday.
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If that's the one sold in Brooklyn leaning against a washing machine, including a history of where the seller toured on it, you beat me to the punch on that one, even though I responded within an hour of the posting on Good Friday.
That's the one. She was a very nice lady. And now I have a touring bike.
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That's the one. She was a very nice lady. And now I have a touring bike.
Congrats, welcome to the club. I have a 620, a 520 and a 520 Cirrus Sport. For some reason, I thought you road a frame 2" bigger than the Trek 520 you just got?
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Congrats, welcome to the club. I have a 620, a 520 and a 520 Cirrus Sport. For some reason, I thought you road a frame 2" bigger than the Trek 520 you just got?
It's about 53cm ctc, I usually ride around a 54-55. I can ride a 56, and have a bike that size, but 54 is probably ideal. 53 works fine. Crank length makes a big difference, too. I have short legs so sizing is always a little weird.
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If I rember right these had a 53-55 frame with a fairly long wheelbase which gives one alot of room to work with parts and setup wise to dial in a good fit.
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If I rember right these had a 53-55 frame with a fairly long wheelbase which gives one alot of room to work with parts and setup wise to dial in a good fit.
Yes, that's right, the 520 has a 53cm ST and 55cm TT.
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I'll keep feeding you leads.
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There was a blip of a Miyata 615 (1988, 21" frame) on Minneapolis craigslist tonight. Didn't last an hour priced at $125.
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I told Gary about that one right after is showed up on CL. By the time he was able to look for it it was gone.

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There was a blip of a Miyata 615 (1988, 21" frame) on Minneapolis craigslist tonight. Didn't last an hour priced at $125.
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Old touring bikes in 2014 are like old track bikes in 2006.
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I told Gary about that one right after is showed up on CL. By the time he was able to look for it it was gone.
True. There was also a Bridgestone RB-T in my size that Bob sent me to. I didn't see it because they listed it under Sporting Goods, not Bikes. It just sold after being on CL for a few weeks.
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I'll keep feeding you leads.
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