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Mystery Cinelli track frame identification

Old 07-09-14, 02:34 PM
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Mystery Cinelli track frame identification

I am in the process of possible purchasing a cinelli track frame, but need help identifying what it actually is. Owner seems to think it was produced in the 1950's and was a track frame. Bottom bracket shell has Cinelli Cs stamped into it and also has five holes drilled into it. Lugs appear to have an elongated heart shape in them, similar to de rossa, but a little longer. Owner stated it is a track frame, but fork and frame have holes drilled into them for brake placement (not sure if done after purchase).

Help me identify what I'm dealing with if you can. pics below
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Old 07-09-14, 04:24 PM
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why do we need a thread on this non-cinelli frame here at Appraisals AND and C&V as well?

one would think a single thread would be sufficient.
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Old 07-09-14, 05:50 PM
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Lets see the frame, the fork, the drop outs. But that BB looks to be investment cast....thats 80's technology. And a cotterless crank definitely not 50"s.

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Old 07-09-14, 07:22 PM
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Looks Olmo-ish.
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Old 07-10-14, 09:36 AM
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Some pics of the whole frame help. The frame looks to be early 80's definetly not 1950's and from what I can see in the pics I'm fairly sure it isn't a track frame. Looks to be a nicer early 80's Italian bike that has been rebuilt and converted into a SS/FG. I would suggest you pass on this one and I definetly wouldn't pay much more than $100 for a mystery frame with a so/so repaint that is missrepresented like this one.
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Old 07-10-14, 11:12 AM
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The OP said in another thread that the rear dropouts are track ends, and there's a photo of the fork crown more or less of a top view showing the fork blades are round like a track fork would have (rather than oval like road fork blades).

Lots of builders - large and small - used those cast steel Cinelli BB shells because they were extremely accurate mechanically, didn't warp with brazing, and the threads were perfectly coaxial.

This is the third thread the OP has started requesting information about this frameset.
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Old 07-10-14, 11:53 AM
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As its the third thread, I'd say the OP really wants to buy it, and really wants to think its a Cinelli. Its his money so I'd say buy it and be happy with whatever it is.

i notice that the top of the right chain stay is flattened and maybe even capped, never seen that before.

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Old 07-10-14, 11:36 PM
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It's not a Cinelli. What's the asking price?
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