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80s Centurion Master IronMan Dave Scott- Cost in Sellers Market?

Old 08-02-14, 03:23 PM
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80s Centurion Master IronMan Dave Scott- Cost in Sellers Market?

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for a good durable road bike in Chicago so obviously this is more of a sellers market up here. Came across this bike and the offer is for $300.00, is it worth the cost? I'm hoping it will last at least another 5-10 years. They said they would be replacing the tires but the wheels will remain the same. Please let me know what you think and if these are good road bikes and cost for this market? Thanks for any advice.

Please see the link below for newly uploaded pics, but please let me know your thoughts on this bike. The frame is perfect for my height. Thanks!

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/hnzujolq0...Qm7Tk849Rxiuwa

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Old 08-02-14, 04:32 PM
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Here is another pic of the frame, shows some obvious scuff marks. also the components are shimano 600s on most, its a good small frame for me. Probably 50-54 the biggest (I'm 5'3). The tires are busted so i will have to get some new ones. They are giving me some, but will probably be cheapies.
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Old 08-02-14, 07:37 PM
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I had a near mint Iron Man Expert all 105`s that I could not sell for $250 in the Chicago market. I think $300 is over priced. Here is one at half that.
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Rims look pretty worn too, I think its overpriced by 100 or so.
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thanks for the feedback on this. Just emailed the guy about the centurion you posted.
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what about this one, its a centurion le mans?

centurion le mans racer 56cm road bike
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Old 08-04-14, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tear6798 View Post
what about this one, its a centurion le mans?

centurion le mans racer 56cm road bike
Someone has a Centurion Le Mans RS in mint condition on STL CL for $225 that has been sitting there for a month. Original asking price was $275. I started a thread here but no comments so far: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...l#post16999523
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Old 08-04-14, 11:28 PM
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This may not be that helpful, but have you checked out the wikipedia site of Centurions Centurion (bicycle) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It looks like it's one of the general purpose models. I would ask about the frame on it and the tubing, what type of material its made from. The Centurion Dave Scott is a cromoly, doubly butted frame, Tange 1, pretty high end stuff. Try to stay away from anything that says tensile steel, I heard that's pretty low end. Even mangaloy is okay, and Fuji Valite is alright also, all better than high tensile steel. double butted is better than single butted also. I just started learning about bikes the last few weeks though. Another thing is you are going to want to ask them what size frame they have (in either inches or cm) and determine what size you need based on your height (in cm's according to this chart)

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It's very important to make sure that the bike fits well for you. If it doesn't fit well it's not gonna make much difference what bike it is because you will be too uncomfortable. just saw the pic showing the frame type, Tange 2 is actually pretty darn good also, cromoly as well. very light which will help the bike ride a little faster and definitely long lasting material. agree with the person above, but I think the price varies a bit depending on the market and season.

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Old 08-04-14, 11:46 PM
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Uncle Randy, i just realized your credentials. please excuse anything i said about fitting your bike. Pretty sure you are far more knowledgeable than me on all this stuff. Just curious, what's the fastest bike out of the bikes you already have? and what's a good mid to late 80s bike you'd recommend for either commuting or racing?
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Old 08-05-14, 12:35 PM
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Thanks Randy, btw, i ended up buying that Centurion Master Dave Scott for $220. I know it was a little overpriced, but i really wanted the bike. now im getting razorback tires and am going to smooth out the rims, they actually spin pretty well and smooth so im gonna try them for a bit. Picking the bike up tomorrow or thursday and am super excited about it. am already thinking about buying another bike primarily for commuting places. probably a Fuji, but I'm not set on anything yet. I want the next to be closer to a mid level older 80s bike, but its hard to get an old bike thats not cromoly and higher end stuff when you know its out there. Im just so paranoid about someone stealing my bikes. too many thiefs in chicago for the biking market.
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Assuming no hidden issues, $220 is a fine price for the Ironman Master. It was a top line (Japanese) racing bike in its day; this one has some wear and needs help, but looks basically sound. The grey marbled/smoked paint makes it an '89 IIRC. And 'Master' models are far rarer than 'Expert' not that anyone but a few nerds (here) care.

The vintage market is goofy, sometimes things slip by, sometimes any reasonable deal is snapped up right away. There is definitely an awareness out there of the Ironman model, but if the Centurion fans in your area already have one or aren't paying attention, a deal can sit there on CL for a while. I suspect Steve W's location well out from the city may have had something to do with his not selling at his price.

It does look to me like a 54cm which may be pushing it for you at 5' 3". I am 5' 6" and prefer a 52cm...but I also have fairly short legs.

If you go over to the other Classic and Vintage board, search for 'Ironman' and you'll find lots of threads on the topic. RobbieTunes is the expert, he's had probably dozens of them, restored them to original, built them up modern-style, every possible variation. There's kind of an Ironman club, and you'll be welcomed as a member. As long as you don't go grinding parts off the frame.
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Old 08-05-14, 04:52 PM
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+220 would be a good price if the bike has no issues and decent componets & wheels. These where real nice race level bikes you don't get much when it comes to this level bike for $220 in most markets.
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Thanks Randy, btw, i ended up buying that Centurion Master Dave Scott for $220. I know it was a little overpriced, but i really wanted the bike. now im getting razorback tires and am going to smooth out the rims, they actually spin pretty well and smooth so im gonna try them for a bit. Picking the bike up tomorrow or thursday and am super excited about it. am already thinking about buying another bike primarily for commuting places. probably a Fuji, but I'm not set on anything yet. I want the next to be closer to a mid level older 80s bike, but its hard to get an old bike thats not cromoly and higher end stuff when you know its out there. Im just so paranoid about someone stealing my bikes. too many thiefs in chicago for the biking market.
Congratulations, Tear! I'm sure you can get some advice on bike locks if you start a new thread but take the bike inside with you whenever you can.
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I spent $275 for the same bike in the original post. 1989 with shimano 600 and the black/grey white color scheme. Very good but far from mint condition.
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So, I picked up the bike today and took it for a stroll for about an hour. Rode it pretty fast most of the time (or as fast as I could do it). The good news and bad news is... the good news is that the bike works great, brakes work well, gears shift smoothly, nice and light, turns smoothly, its a nice fast little bike, and everything works pretty well on it. The downside is that its about 53cm (from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube). I don't mind that its a few cm's bigger, but my upper back started hurting pretty quickly, anything I can do to fix that? The bike was fit well to my leg length because there is still a slight bend in my knee when the pedal is fully down. Any advice one how I can do a quick fix for this? Perhaps make my handlebars higher? or move my seat up more? Anything would be helpful... worst case, I will buy another bike probably closer to 48, 50cm and let my brother use this one, he's about 5'9, 5'10, but please if there is anything I could do to make some adjustments and make this Centurion work for me, I will totally do it. Thanks again to all you knowledgeable bike persons!
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One more thing, I get that this is a road bike, and the one I got moreso a racing bike, but the seat is pretty uncomfortable. Any recommendations on a comfortable seat I can get that wont slow me down (if seats do slow bikers down, I actually have no idea)? Thanks again everyone.
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As for fit and comfort a better seat could help and won slow you down. As for actuall seat recomendations some ideas on budget would help nice comfortable road seats start at around $30 and go up to a $100 plus if you buy anice leather one. As for size comfort you can move the seat forawrd and adjust the angle slightly also if the frame seems a little big you may want to consider switching to a stem with a short neck sometimes as little as 5-10mm difference can make a bike a lot more comfortable.
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