tootall61

Anyone have knowledge of pre WW II Wastyn bicycles?

Scooper

What kind of knowledge are you looking for? That's a pretty broad spectrum question.

Emil and his son Oscar both built track bikes in Chicago before the war and built nearly all of the pre-war Paramounts for Schwinn.

tootall61

I'm trying to get an approx. value for my Wastyn. I've contacted Wastyn cycles with pics, they were reluctant to put a value on it. I've been in touch with Ron Scwinn at Waterford. Sent pics to him, he was happy to see it but was unable to put a value on it. I realize that value depends on demand. All I'm looking for is a ballpark figure. I'm not looking to sell. I will post pics as soon as I figure out how. Thanks for getting back with me.

big chainring 

With so few made, and so few surviving, it comes down to what someone is willing to pay for one. And also very few cycling enthusiasts know what a Wastyn is. Heck I wouldn't recognize one, let alone know what parts were on it.

I would say for a complete bike in original operable condition, $3000 +.

tootall61

I'm working on providing pics...

tootall61

tootall61

I'm going for a ride. Getting ready for Chequamegon fat 40 this weekend. Be back later

howsteepisit

I'd say that if the experts at Wastyn and Ron Schwinn don't know, I doubt there is much reliable info. I'd say your best bet is an auction house that specializes in collectables.

big chainring 

Wow! Thats a gem.

Scooper

It's post-1938 because it has a Schwinn Paramount cottered crankset, Schwinn Paramount hubs, and a Paramount adjustable reach stem.

Which stem and handlebar were on the bike originally, the Schwinn adjustable stem and drop bar or the one on it now?

Who is Ron Schwinn? Do you mean Richard?

tootall61

My mistake. You're correct Richard not Ron.

tootall61

Scooper

That cleaned up nicely. I'm wondering if it was originally equipped with the Sturmey-Archer 3-speed IGH or if that was a later mod. Is there a date code on the rear hub?

In any case, it's a very nice late thirties/early forties chrome plated Wastyn.

tootall61

Scooper,thanks for your help. To answer your ? the date code is AW. Which I believe is late 30's. The bike was made for the father of a friend when his father was a teenager 1940 give or take. I believe the bike frame is a 6-day track frame, with original steel wheels and S/A hub for everyday riding. Did it have wood wheels originally? I have no idea. But again thank you to everyone who commented. The only remaining question I have is. What years did wastyn use the type of head badge on mine E.W.?

iab

Cool. I have place near there. I'm not a trail guy but I do like the Firehouse 50. Fun race.

tootall61

Cool! Yeah, it's cool up here! Hard freeze warnings out tonight. Hayward area had a bad storm last week. Flooding in town. Main road through town (highway 53) was flooded,downed trees. Race course has been rerouted because of downed trees. I've never raced the firehouse. I will put it on the "list"

Scooper

AW is the model; it's a wide gear range (133.3/100/75) 3-speed hub introduced in 1936. Here's a photo from Sheldon Brown's website showing where the year of manufacture is located.

If the bike was a six day racer it would likely have had wooden rims originally.

vorticist

I just acquired a 59 cm 1968 Wastyn. It has ben repainted and does not have the original forks. however the frame has Nervex lugs and Campy dropouts. It came with 2 Campy Neuvo Record rear derailleurs, front derailleur and downtube shifters and a stem labeled "Made in Italy" I researched the brake levers but cannot find any information on them. Help. They have black Dia Compe hoods but no other marking. The "switch" on the front of the lever opens the Mafac Racer calipers to facilitate the removal of the wheels.

TugaDude

As far as value, how about "priceless". Probably not many from that era in good condition left. Full chrome, beautiful HB in great shape, has to put it in a rarefied category.

However, as we all know, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Original rims would help as would any documentation that it was raced, by whom, etc.

wrk101

Both are huge negatives. Collectors like getting bikes that are complete and original. Finding the "right" fork is a major undertaking, and of course, original paint is gone.

Now as a cool old bike to ride and enjoy, none of that matters.

vorticist

Yes you are right. I am in the process of rebuilding it to ride. On another topic any idea about the brake levers? I cannot find any information on them anywhere.