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1968 Jack Taylor Super Clubman

Old 09-23-14, 07:00 PM
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1968 Jack Taylor Super Clubman

I bought this bike in 1981 (for $200) and rode it on weekends for a few years and then moved on to a mountain bike.
It was stored in the attic of my workshop and these pictures were taken earlier this evening.
I'm curious to hear reactions as to how desirable it might be.

1968 Jack Taylor Super Clubman 23"
Never repainted but I primed a couple of spots near the chain and seat stays. Some corrosion on tubes as pictured.
Pale Blue Flambouyant with white box lining, yellow lug lining and original Mondrian transfers
All the components that were in place when I bought it are still there, and I suspect they are original to the bike.
Not that I know what I'm talking about, but . . .
Campagnolo drop-outs
Steel cottered Stronglight crank
Huret front derailleur and levers, Allvit rear derailleur
Brooks B-15, Bluemels Lightweight mud guards
Lyotard pedals, Mafac brakes, Huret Lux front hub (original rims are steel - wheels on bike are ones I bought after-the-fact but have the originals intact)

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Old 09-23-14, 08:22 PM
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I am no expert on values, but there are many people in their 40's who wish to own a bicycle that was made on the year that they were born. This would be a nice project for someone.
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Old 09-23-14, 09:50 PM
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For me, very desireable. I really love the patina and apparently original set up of your bike - cottered crank and all. It came with steel wheels! The Jack Taylors have always to me seemed to hearken back to an earlier era, no matter when they were built. I was curious and just checked sold listings on Ebay. Recent sales prices range from around $250 to almost $2500, a huge spread, depending on condition and originality. (To me the $250 bike was a steal.) The more expensive bikes were in very original and very pristine condition. Lesser prices reflect rougher condition and some unoriginal components. Yours feels original, but has some condition issues. Just a guess as to value, there are many here who will maybe have a better idea, but perhaps in the very low four figure range or slightly less?
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Old 09-24-14, 06:37 AM
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With the recent threads on "valuing a bike"...I find that the one way to always say what I think is fair...is to say what I might be willing to pay for a bike. At this point, with the pictures available, I would consider offering about 500-600 for this bike...and that would consider shipping it.

Just my $.02...or maybe $500? :-)

Good luck with it...
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Old 09-24-14, 06:29 PM
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I think it has significant value on eBay - likely over $1000, and possibly significantly so. On CL - probably a lot less. On our classified, I'm not sure...I think there is a buyer at $1000 even with us cheap skates. Don't sell it without getting an estimate from someone better than me as I suspect value might be higher than I know.

I haven't watched enough Jack Taylor auctions to feel confident in a value, but I would definitely ignore an offer of 500-600 as a seller. The Taylor brothers have a following and are quite well regarded. This one looks very sharp. I know if this were on my Craigslist at 700 I'd be running...even without knowing that much.
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Desirable frame and name a plus; deductions for paint condition and rust. Original components a plus, but although the component names roll off the tongue, they are not top-line parts, a negative. Components need a serious cleaning/polishing. Bike also needs tune-up and replacement of consumables, a deduction. I'd say $500 at the most.
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Most of the prices above were on decade old transactions...I believe market is higher now. As stated, I haven't closely followed JT auctions and am not an expert on the models...however I will say that I haven't seen them sell for under $1000 as complete bikes often.

Condition is a bit rougher than I first noticed...I still like it very much. I do think with that patina I am too high. 500-600 seems more reasonable after really looking at the rust. I can say that I would buy it locally at that number.

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Old 09-25-14, 09:22 AM
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Thanks

Thanks to everyone for the responses which I read carefully.

While the JT is original and complete, I agree that the components were nothing special back in the day. As I’ve thought about it, I now remember that 30 years ago it wasn’t all that good to ride because of the gearing and because it was slightly too large for me. (I had jumped at the opportunity to buy a hand-built British bike. My bike in high school was my uncle’s 1958 Witcomb that I’d brought back from England in 1973 and which my brother still has. That was much more fun to ride than the JT, come to think of it.)

I can see two paths forward for the bike (and neither appeal to me very much, to be honest).

If I were a ‘bicycle guy’ and if the JT frame were my size, I’d strip it down to the bare frame, save the 80% of the paint that’s good, put the original parts in a box, and build it up. (I’m basically doing this with a 1951 Land Rover currently. It was literally an incomplete pile of parts as-bought and it will look like a 1951 with engine, gearbox, axles and steering from a 1966 which are stronger and cheaper to maintain.)

If I were a ‘bicycle collector’ I’d clean it up and put it on display, but my passion is cars rather than bikes. Given the components and condition, the bike’s ‘collector value’ isn’t great even though the lore of the Taylor brothers carries weight.

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So I’d agree that the bike would seem to be a good deal (good project) at $500 but that it’s difficult to imagine that it’s worth a lot more than that.

Thanks again.
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My guess is it would bring quite a bit more than $500 on ebay. But that's strictly a guess.
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